By Steven Jon Herridge (Stevejh2) (194.176.153.162) on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:42 am:

I attended the Lightwave World Wide Tour in Bath U.K. and was promised that I would be sent a cd with course content.
I have emailed Newtek Europe and in turn they have sent this email on to Newtek but I haven't heard back.
Has anyone received their copy of the cd as it is now FOR SALE at
http://www.splinegod.com/worldwidetour.htm
for $79.95
Cheers
Steve

By Larry Shultz "SplineGod" (Larrys) (209.179.227.38) on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 12:30 pm:

Hey Steve,
The CD that I created has some of the same content as the DVD. The lectures I created for the CD are also used on the DVD. Im not sure what else is on the DVD though since I havent seen it.
The CD that I created has been on sale for months now. Send me an email and Ill see what I can do about making sure you get yours.
larrys@splinegod.com
Take care!

By Chuck Baker (Cbaker) (207.235.86.2) on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 01:47 pm:

Hi, Steve!

I'll check into the matter and see where fulfillment is supposed to be occurring, and see that you get your CD. Apologies on behalf of NewTek for the delay and apparent confusion.

Chuck

By Chuck Baker (Cbaker) (207.235.86.2) on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 01:53 pm:

Hi, Steve!

Just checked and the Bath event was not a NewTek sponsored event. That was a LearningStop.com event, and Larry will be well able to assist you (and we'll help out as well, if needed).

Chuck

By Steven Jon Herridge (Stevejh2) (194.176.153.162) on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 07:37 am:

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for your reply.
I was under the impression that I attended a Newtek seminar with Lee Stranahan and Graham Toms and that I would receive free course content.
I've emailed Larry to apologies for any confusion.

Thanks

Steve

By Daniel Amos (Azazael) (194.247.49.109) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 05:28 am:

Hi there Steve, I also attended the Bath and have been in regular contact with Lee (even if he does ignore his emails). Over the last six months we've had a number of excuses and even the odd promise but nothing has materialised.

Having checked out www.learningstop.com it looks as though the CD's are being replicated one-at-a-time by his son! Come on Lee I have an eight disc replicator here screaming for attention. I am prepared to create and distribute CD's for European delegates, what do you say?

By Daniel Amos (Azazael) (194.247.49.109) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 05:29 am:

Hi there Steve, I also attended the Bath event and have been in regular contact with Lee (even if he does ignore his emails). Over the last six months we've had a number of excuses and even the odd promise but nothing has materialised.

Having checked out www.learningstop.com it looks as though the CD's are being replicated one-at-a-time by his son! Come on Lee I have an eight disc replicator here screaming for attention. I am prepared to create and distribute CD's for European delegates, what do you say?

By Denny Butts (Dbutts) (24.48.156.151) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 10:44 am:

I attended a class back in November in Orlando, FL and was curious when the DVD's were coming. We were given the CDs at the class, with the promise of these DVDs with the "best of" class movies.

Is this what you guys are talking about above? or the did you not even get the CDs?

By Eric Heupel (Eheupel) (141.156.221.8) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:53 pm:

yeah, I'm still waiting on the DVD from an earlier tour stop in Washington DC area...

By Denny Butts (Dbutts) (24.48.156.151) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 12:13 am:

Here's some good news. I received an email from Lee Thursday, Feb 6th 2003, that they will be at a city near by mine and mentioned some offers on attending this event.

Anyhow, at the bottom of the email was this:

"PS - I'm still waiting on the final material for the DVD, so if you've been anticipating the DVD - don't worry, you'll get it when it ships later this month."

By Larry Shultz "SplineGod" (Larrys) (209.179.51.7) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 01:50 am:

Final materials for the DVD have been:
My part which are the the lectures. They are mostly done and its the conversion to quicktime format thats slow.
Lee also had his car broken into and some important DVD related pieces of equipment stolen.
I believe that problems been fixed.
So basically they will be shipping soon.
As far as the World Wide Tour CDs for europe...
I dont know anything about that but if you are still waiting drop me an email and I will see what I can do.

By Denny Butts (Dbutts) (24.48.156.151) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 02:00 am:

Larry,

Thanks for the update, such a shame that Lee had his car borken into. That really sucks.

Take care,

By Daniel Amos (Azazael) (195.92.144.145) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 07:44 am:

I don't hold much hope for you Denny, we've had the same half promises for nearly a year.

Steven, My initial offer to cut and distribute the European CD's was accepted with enthusiasm but Lee seems to have lapsed back into his 'if I ignore it, it will go away' mentality.

Larry, I appreciate it is out of your hands but if you could give Lee a kick up the backside from the UK, we'd all be much happier.

Regards

Daniel

By Larry Shultz "SplineGod" (Larrys) (216.244.18.202) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:26 pm:

I promise Lee isnt ignoring anyone. He has been driving some very long distances(900 miles)doing the seminars with maybe a day in between each city to travel. I know he has been getting back with people as he has time to do so. He IS working his way through his emails and I know that the situation in Europe is being worked on.
Im also helping out to get things caught up.
I appreciate the patience. Thanks!

By Ken Mac (Kenmac) (67.83.211.28) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 07:23 am:

I will also vouch for Lee. Next to Springsteen he is the hardest working person in the biz. Last time Lee was in the NY area I was shocked to find out he DRIVES to all the seminars that take place in the States. I thought for sure he was flying. The guy is totally dedicated to the LW community.
He has my vote..
Ken Mac

By Daniel Amos (Azazael) (195.137.104.64) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 12:27 pm:

I have no doubt about Lee's commitment to the community, it's his ability to run a business that worries me.

If you are too busy to handle the workload you get somebody to help out. I have volunteered my time and equipment to help where I can, but even that barely gains a response.

Some of his customers have not heard from him since May 2002, what else are they to think? Larry's response should go some way appease them and I thank him for that.

Daniel

By Paul Andrews (Pauland) (62.253.96.4) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 03:03 am:

I was totally impressed by the two seminar days of last years LW tour here in the U.K. Lee looked very tired then. I think that, if as Larry says, he is as busy on the tour travelling and giving seminars, then I really hope he steps back from that. It's not something that can be done indefinitely and I'm sure his family and the LW community will be concerned that he might be damaging his health with such a lifestyle. As Daniel has said, if Lee is unable to follow through because he won't accept help, it really does negate much of the hard work he's putting in. Get some rest Lee and accept some help.