By longchin (Thekeeper) (24.163.28.122) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:08 pm:

ok rookie question....D1 NTSC, is it 720x486...or 720x480?
LW D1 is 486
but finalcutpro D1 is 480?(and it doesnt seem to like 486, drops frames on replay
but480 runs fine?
so whats the deal here?
which is right?

By adam stern (Adam) (24.79.126.243) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:22 pm:

D1 NTSC is 720X486. DV native is 720X480, which is where the confusion comes from. If you're rendering for broadcast 720X486 is the correct resolution, but if you're intending to finish @ DV resolution in final cut you can go with 480.

The dropped frames in final cut probably come from having a final cut sequence set to DV (480) and dropping in a clip rendered at 486. Final Cut will think it has to render this to play and thus won't play it in real time. Check your sequence settings => timeline tab to confirm.

By Beam Tracer (Beamtracer) (203.109.241.109) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 02:19 pm:

To confuse things even further, "D1" is a tape format, not a pixel ratio standard. The correct term for the standard is ITU-601, but most people have trouble saying that, and refer to it as D1. D1 was a cassette format that was the first to utilize the 720x486 (720x576 PAL) ratio, but the name stuck.

By longchin (Thekeeper) (24.163.28.122) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 04:11 pm:

thanks guys...adam,
two stars for you, sequence settings were incorrect.

ok rookie question#2
going out of FCP to a 20 inch color tele
through a canopus advc100 to get a "real look?"
and it aint what it looks like on the computer?
on the television things are way oversaturated
and seem to have gotten to "contrasty" also seem a bit"mushy" for lack of a better term.
do you have to Light in LW differently for broadcast,( IE. do test render frames and run them through FCPto check for and acurate read of how things will look before rendering the whole biz)? or am i completely missing something here(likely)
i thought i had this thing nailed and it looks like crap on the tele.
oh well .... miles to go

By Beam Tracer (Beamtracer) (203.109.241.109) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:57 pm:

The maximum white level and minimum black levels are different in video to your RGB computer monitor.

I'm not an expert with Final Cut, however I'm surprised that FCP didn't squash the levels down for you. Maybe when you import the animation you need to tell FCP that the vision has RGB levels.

Alternately, you could load your previously rendered video into Lightwave, in the compositing section select your video as a backdrop, then under the Image Process button select the Video Legalize filter and output your animation again. I haven't tried this method myself, but it should work. The Video Legalize filter should squash your luminance and saturation levels down to video specifications.

By ted devlin (Eblue) (12.149.3.2) on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 09:05 am:

or you could adjust the color on your tv. tvs are terrible at consistent color reproduction, theres just no way to get the same image to look the same on 2 tvs. So you are going to have to swallow at least a little of the poor color, bc you can't expect what you see on that tv to be representative of any other tv (so any changes you make will screw things up further). best bet? don't screw with your image too much, just make sure you have NTSC safe colors (fcp has a plugin, ae has one, and LW I think has one) and possibly lower your contrast a little, and then screw with the tv settings. I can guarantee that the tv is the biggest problem.
do an internet search for "calibrating your tv" I found a great site once, that really got into the problems with the modern tv.