Notepad Vs. Lightwave

NewTek Forum: LightWave 3D®: LW Community: Notepad Vs. Lightwave
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Scott Wilkinson (Exnihilo) (66.24.149.78) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 08:16 am:

I feel I must defend Lightwave (since I actually have a dongle).

Lightwave is way better than NotePad for the following reasons:

1. Notepad has NO radiosity

2. Notepad only has one viewport. (I wrote Microsoft about this obvious flaw and they said that the reason why is because if they implement other viewport options, such as left and right view, you would not be able to see your letter models, they would all be jumbled up.... actually, I haven't heard back from them yet, but I bet they will say that. I wrote them an e-mail an hour ago and they STILL haven't answered me)

3. I ask you... Where is the Notepad community? Nuff said about that.

4. Have you ever tried to animate anything in Notepad? I waisted 9 hours trying to figure out how to make one animation. Finally, I discovered that Notepad has manual animation buttons (hotkeys are "tab key", "Space bar", "backspace", and "Retern"). However, these make really boring animations becuase they only go in ONE direction. Also, there is NO way to save your animations.... You always have to push (and hold down) a hot key to watch your animation)..... lame.

5. So, Lightwave is WAY better!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Curtis Kaminski (Frizbee) (141.158.65.99) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 08:25 am:

In defense of Notepad ( I have a dongle too!)

1. Notepad has much lower system requirements that Lightwave. You can run Notepad on virtually any Windows PC, even back to windows 3.0.

2. Notepad can render a still of it's animation for printout in milliseconds.

3. Notepad is not much of a drain on system resources.

4. Files generated by notepad can be read by virtually any competitors product.

:)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Julian Warren (Julianw) (213.123.150.124) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 08:41 am:

Hey Scott you are clearly the kind of amateur home Note user that keeps dragging the Note community down with your inexperience. As an professional Note user I can assure that Note has some very fine animation tools, and is capable of loading and saving animations.

If you really need help on this one all I'll say is 'Page Up' and 'Page Down' if you're any good with Note you should be able to work it out for yourself :O

JW.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Wilson (Robewil) (64.60.61.194) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 10:56 am:

Wow! I guess I really opened up a can of worms with my "Is NotePad going to replace Lightwave?" question in another post.

As a die-hard NotePad fanatic who belongs to several NotePad user groups and subscribes to NotePadPro magazine, I'm really interested in how this all comes out. Personally, I'm not sure it's a fair fight. Lightwave has a lot of catching up to do in terms of cost per feature before I would even consider replacing my NotePad with it. One more thing. For everybody out there who wants an integrated program (i.e. no separate Layout and Modeler) NotePad is it. :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Pierre Salazar (Sailor) (193.252.4.213) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 11:28 am:

Notepad sucks !

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Fez (63.237.13.2) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 11:31 am:

During a crunch I once had 56 respective notepads running simultaneously on my desktop. Even with this virtual regiment of notepads neatly arranged across my dual 21 " monitors, my system did not so much as hiccup. Conversely, after I started my 42nd respective Lightwave application, my workstation started to whimper and spew green sparks. Thanks Newtek but I like my fireworks on the fourth. I'm naming my firstborn Notepad.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By brad gordon (198.26.119.85) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 11:47 am:

I agree with Pierre. NotePad 2000 utterly sucks!! MS better get their heads out of their asses.

Talk about bugs! I opened the prog today, unplugged my computer, and lost everything!!

Documentation? Like I want an online help file. Give me a leather bound manual with gold hinges FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!
Then I'll have everything I need to be a famous writer.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By karin (200.207.151.29) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 12:12 pm:

Hey, Robert! I love you for opening this discussion! Laughs are always welcome! :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By BRTK (212.105.40.59) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 02:05 pm:

2 questions:

1. Is there NotePad for Amiga (I still got my old A600 with 2Mb of RAM and 40MbHD)? PLZ help, I coul really use this!!!
2. Is there a NotePad gallery somewhere? URL?

TIA /BRTK

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 02:35 pm:

MY NOTEPAD CAN'T SCAN OBJECTS !!!!!!!
PLEAZZZZZZZZ HHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEELLLLLPPPPPPPPPP

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By the_intern (12.101.14.20) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 02:51 pm:

what's a bongle??

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Wilson (Robewil) (64.60.61.194) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 02:54 pm:

BRTK

1. I do seem to remember NotePad for the Amiga. With only 2MB of RAM on your system, you may be limited to running it 20 times or so before the evil GURU MEDITATION ERROR gets you.

2. I looked and looked but had no luck finding a NotePad Gallery. So I'll start one now. What do you think?

NotePad Rules!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Confused (66.24.108.74) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:00 pm:

Dont't Talk badly about Notpad!!!! ---- I LOVE HER!!!..

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Confused (66.24.108.74) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:03 pm:

Dont't Talk badly about Notepad!!!! ---- I LOVE HER!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By joyjoy (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:06 pm:

Notepad newbie having a problem

I am looking for the depth button and can't seem to find it.
Anyone can help????

/image{notepad}

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By joy joy (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:07 pm:

dammit
/image{image here}

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By joy (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:08 pm:

/image{here}

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By no joy (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:09 pm:

/desktop{pic}

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By unJoyfull (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:11 pm:

joyless

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Wilson (Robewil) (64.60.61.194) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:14 pm:

joyjoy:

There is no "depth" button in NotePad per se. But if you are looking for that 3D effect, swivel your monitor at various angles. There's virturally, an inifinte way of manipulating your NotePad rendering using this technique.

There you have it. Simple and elegant, that's NotePad for you.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Karin (200.207.151.29) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 03:47 pm:

Wow! Hey, Robert! How did you do such amazing texturing in Notepad? It´s incredible realism! I´m dazzled! Maybe you should make a Notepad tutorial (please, do!)
Cheers :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike Green (195.92.194.12) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 04:03 pm:

Hey Steve,
If you look on pg 634, paragraph 4, word 6 letter 12, there's a microdot, encoded in hexadecimal, written backwards,which tells you to put your bounding box threshold up.

Some people just don't read the manuals I guess. Can Microsoft do something about this? Do they have a monkey to spare? ;)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dumbo-Dumbo (150.253.42.90) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 04:08 pm:

Screw you guys and your Note Pad. I'm a Mac user and Stickies kick ass... er,well...mabey not.

Anyway, I heare that Stickies will be way more stable in OSX

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By BRRTK (212.105.40.85) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 04:30 pm:

Joyjoy:
You seem not to have the latest version.Down it from www.macrosoft.com .It rocks: layers, undo/redo, and Yesss: "Depth"...It has itegrated calculator as well. The best of all the upgrade is free for all users. Heres screendump:
latestNOTEPAD
It looks kinda familiar...;)
No more time wasting, I leave this thread--->
/Bartek

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Confused (66.24.108.74) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 04:57 pm:

Notepad cheated on me so I divorced her for EMACS!!!
EMACS.. YEAAAAA.... I LOVE HER!!!!!!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kevin phillips (203.97.64.227) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 05:42 pm:

Anyone know if MS plan to port Notepad to Linux, or at least a Linux version of NoteNet?

Linux has better network support, so I reckon a 'NoteFarm' running on Linux nodes would rock! :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (24.26.206.248) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 05:54 pm:

this is probably best Lightwave VS anything thread goin

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By The professional (195.249.164.96) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 06:23 pm:

What?????

You pathetic suckers uses Notepad? What a bunch of amateurs!!! True professionals (like myself and my cat Pingo) only uses WordPad. It's more difficult to use and has many features which can be confusing to mere mortals such as you, but we who are kings of the visual wordediting industry only uses this tool!! Clients always ask what wordrenderer we use, and when we say "we only use WordPad" they get very impressed and we can get away with tripling the bill.

If you have the guts to venture into this complex and deep application, you should visit this URL:

www.highendwords.com/BlowMyOwnTrumpet.htm

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By pad-monkey (205.217.45.50) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 06:42 pm:

Ok, I'm a total newbie, and I've been checking out this gallery because I want to do 3d. Most of the stuff here is cool, but the stuff I've seen done with notepad just blows everything else away.

I'm gonna get a new 'puter but I need to know which card is the best for running "pad" - I've got a 8M card (pretty sweet if you ask me)... or do you think I should spend the extra ca$h on a pro card?? maybe I should get some more RAM? - do you think 2x512M is enough?? - also, does anyone know if the new Pentium4 is optimized for "pad". Hey, does it even make sense not to have the fastest machine for "pad"??

I heard there's going to be a new version of "pad" coming out next year with all kinds of new killer features (read: drop shadows etc.) does this mean I have to get a new 'puter again? I'm just worried about spending G's now to run something that gonna be a dinosaur in a year, 'cause everytime there's a new version it always seems slower?

yeah, and I hope the new version comes with a phatty-phat-phat manual (no pdf! - maybe a .txt/.doc format would be acceptable)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lee (66.24.108.74) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 07:02 pm:

This is just one reason I love Lightwave and the Lightwave community. Good luck to all.
Lee.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By RANT...---GOD---... (166.90.45.193) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 09:56 pm:

Man this is lame, what are you all bored, huh? always talking about how good Notepad is - I never even heard of it, what is this - a joke?
OK, yeah, so if you can render instanteneously, and your alphabet comes in 16 colors, but you have to swivel your monitor to create an animation? - what kind of a backwards-a$$ kinda workflow is that!? OK, so maybe I just point out one serious flaw, and you'll see what I mean?
everyone should know that just because you can afford to be using this "Industry-Standard" of 3d art, doesn't mean you have a right to feel superior to someone who is unfortunate enough to not be able to afford a computer, nevermind "Notepad", yeah and for those who speak against piracy, let it be known that right now there are probably dozens of newbies using cracked copies of Notepad - and should you be worried?? - yeah, if you think that you aren't better than someone else and ar afraid that someone who doesn't support "paying" to be part of "your" community is a bad guy or has bad moral values - sure...
I say give everyone the same choice to learn and experience and you will see that we are all equal. To all the newbies who are starting out: keep your heads up.
Now, get out there and make some ART!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By RANT...---GOD---... (166.90.45.193) on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 09:59 pm:

wait.... did I sound angry??

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Roger A. Cotton (Digilusionist) (24.25.213.66) on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 07:29 pm:

Hi. I'm sorry if this is a stupid newbie question. But, I just downloaded Notepad off a warez site, and I'm having a hard time installing it.

What the heck does QWERTY mean? I'm a self-taught animator and I want an industry pro to explain this technical 3D jargon to me.
TIA

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Zack Cork (Ep_Shot) (209.209.56.16) on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 07:55 pm:

i don't get it.. all those saps over in the so called "gallery" section are ranting this and that abou the lightwave renderer, i mean, so freikin wut if it has "radosity" or "cuastics" personally i'd just like to see the do some thinf like this

ps.. if anybody wants to look at the file, they can download it at www.notepad_roxors.com

phat rendering

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gimbal (The_Undoer) (62.243.173.2) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 04:05 am:

ahhh ... isn't that amazing?!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Leslie Jon-Pierre Lloyd (Nicodemus) (209.194.114.15) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 08:41 am:

Does anyone know where I can get a new "dongle" for Notepad, mine is not working.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Nick Lucio (Nickatnewtek) (207.235.86.2) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 08:51 am:

BAH! Amatures, the lot of you!


*REAL* animators do things the olf fashioned way...

C:\copy con l33t.txt

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mark (Markl) (207.235.86.2) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 09:14 am:

Leslie, after 4 hours of troubleshooting your problem, I have come to the conclusion that you do not in fact need a new dongle, you just need to stop trying to run it from the cd! :P

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Nick Lucio (Nickatnewtek) (207.235.86.2) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 09:16 am:

stupid

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mark (Markl) (207.235.86.2) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 09:21 am:

That's enough outta you Nick!

twak

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian Brizs (Zamzibam) (63.25.37.200) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 11:27 am:

Notepad has support for the mouse wheel. If lightwave had that, auto animations would be much easier to keyframe. Should this go in the feature request?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian Brizs (Zamzibam) (63.25.37.200) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 11:30 am:

Hey unjoyfull, the depth button is not directly available in notepad, but there is a plugin called 3d screen saver, it loads notepad files.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Leslie Jon-Pierre Lloyd (Nicodemus) (209.194.114.15) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 01:24 pm:

Thanks Mark,

Actually I am running it of my spankin new floppy disc over an ethernet.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Argon Hennley (Argon) (207.235.86.252) on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 04:05 pm:

Just some interesting information, notepad is used to create almost all of the skin scripts for the new Video Toaster [2]. However, due to some inner problems inside the UFO department at Newtek, we have been forced to using BBEdit. Lightwave was definatly considered as an option, but BBEdit just had more of the tools that would be needed to meet the very tight Toaster [2] deadline for shipping.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (24.26.205.242) on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 02:26 am:

COOL Zamzibam !!!
and animating is soooooo easy

I can make my name just slide around screen or EVEN make it tumble around ...and all without the hassle of setting up an IK chain..
Ahh the life of a graFX worker :O
It just dosen't get better than this

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gregor (Gregor) (198.5.223.33) on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 09:09 am:

To Whom it May Conce n, rachet...
rachet...

Notepad? Whasdat? What's that? Geez, I hate ching! rachet...
compute s ... e e y six minutes it's someth ching! rachet...
ing new. rachet...
rachet...

I wonde what so t of competiti e upg ade de ching! rachet...
al I'll get on my Smith-Co ona ... Su e, a ching! rachet...
few of the lette s no longe wo k, and the t ching! rachet...
hing isn't e en elect ic, but othe wise, it ching! rachet...
's in e y usable condition. rachet... rachet... rachet...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By michael vogel (Wsimike) (208.63.198.64) on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 11:54 am:

First of all.. this is probably one of the most entertaining threads I've read anywhere... It's refreshing to see that there's a community based around a given 3D package that sees the whole elitist "our program rules, all others suck" mentality for the joke it is.

That is, of course, assuming that there really *isn't* some kind of wierd elitist group built up around notepad.. or have I just stepped into a field of landmines here? <=^o ...

In any case... a good friend of mine literally does use notepad for some of his 3D graphics (when he's not using Rhino), and has done some pretty darned amazing stuff with it - using POVRay as the renderer. It's wierd to think of "programming a 3D image", but he does it. So, within all the humor there really is a bit of irony...

Just thought I'd share that with y'all.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (24.26.205.242) on Saturday, August 11, 2001 - 09:15 pm:

Yes you have stumbled into the 'Notepads R' us' Group. And we will defend to the death against anyone who says that Maya can out do us in typing speed.
Smartskin??? PASHAW.... we can go anywhere on the net and get real skins :)..
And just because we thumb our noses at the 'Wordpad ' (Lucky my computer didn't blow up when I typed that) people of the world, does not make us elitist, we are elitist because we know we are :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gimbal (The_Undoer) (62.243.173.2) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 05:01 am:

Notepad zuckz!
Wordpad rulez!

Notepad zuckz!
Wordpad rulez!

Notepad zuckz!
Wordpad rulez!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gimbal (The_Undoer) (62.243.173.2) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 05:01 am:

Notepad is complete, but Wordpad is unlimited!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (24.26.205.242) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 08:13 am:

yes but the resources used for ****pad for all the really un-needed Xtras is rediculious. A 'real' 2D animator and designer dosen't need them. :O

Next thing ya know, everyone will want stuff in notepad to make it like Word Perfect 2000.

And as long as they don't raise the price 1 penny and they can guarentee that there will be no one here whining about something not working right or fast enough then MABY SOME upgrading could be done as long as they don't have to re-write code from the ground up :)
And don't put those stupid cartoony icon buttons to click on.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Fabrizio Saglio (Tosk) (195.110.141.50) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 09:02 am:

I think the only real alternative to Lightwave is the Cygnus editor professional, the only problem is that it runs only on amigas (as far as i know)
It really kicks all the others (also notepad)
:-)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Martin Frick (Phrick) (213.116.238.4) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 03:35 pm:

Yeeeah! Finally someone mentioned it!

CED -- The king of all "pads".

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Roger A. Cotton (Digilusionist) (24.25.213.66) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 04:47 pm:

Is QWERTY the same thing in Wordpad as it is in Notepad? If it is I'll down load a warez copy of Wordpad instead. Someone here said it rulez, and I am a lemming.

Besides, no one answered my QWERTY question before. You all suck. What kind of board is this? How am I supposed to get anywhere without your help? I- Uh, excuse me. Scooby's on...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Fabrizio Saglio (Tosk) (195.110.141.50) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 05:48 pm:

QWERTY stands for QUADRATIC WELDING of ETHEROGENEAL RASTERIZATED TRIGONOMETRIC of YODA

but i'm not sure....

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Roger A. Cotton (Digilusionist) (24.25.213.66) on Sunday, August 12, 2001 - 10:05 pm:

Wow, really? Will knowing it help me to master Notepad and WordPad so I can get laid more often? I mean, doing 3D is fun and all, but I'm really in this field for the chicks.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gimbal (The_Undoer) (62.243.173.2) on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 11:15 am:

You'll never get laid with Notepad, cuz itza small sissy-proggy for small sissies, and *all* da chicks know that.

Girlz want big Wordpad hunkz who can master their proggy. Intimidated by the menus? - Get a dayjob.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (24.26.205.242) on Monday, August 13, 2001 - 03:12 pm:

Gimbal....You must be dreaming :)
Note is the lanky long distance runner....
****pad is the nieghborhood guy that weighs 500 lbs and the only exercise he gets is running from lawn chair to grill :O

Everyone knows chicks dig guys with longtime stamina.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Michael Green (Dodgy) (195.89.193.67) on Tuesday, August 14, 2001 - 07:34 am:

Wow, Notepad 12 announced at siggraph! Has anyone seen its feature list???

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Paul Brunson (Lwmusings) (24.20.102.81) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 05:03 am:

**hushed wisper**
I hear rumor that Notepad 12 has "Word wrap". No one is quite sure what it does but we know its revolutionary. Some say its an advanced form of character animation. Play a particular kind of music and the letters will automatically dance!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Roger A. Cotton (Digilusionist) (24.25.213.66) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 04:08 pm:

Now, see? THAT is just the kind of irresponsible rumormongering that gets folks all a-twitter on these boards.

When Word wrap is a real feature, it'll be officially announced. Otherwise, you're just getting us all hot and bothered for no reason.

*quivering secretly at the thought of alphanumeric animation*

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Doran Jones (Dajones) (170.89.15.122) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 04:32 pm:

I'm trying to write an N-script to add punctuation automatically in Notepad. This is as far as I got.


@version 2.1
main
{
periodmap = PMap(PMWEIGHT) || error("No Punctation maps in mesh!");
while(Pmap && vmap.type == PMWEIGHT)
{
Pmapnames += Pmap.name;
Pmap = Pmap.next();
}
reqbegin("Scale dot pitch Pmap",true);
c1 = ctlpopup("PMap",1,pmapnames);
c2 = ctlnumber("Scale by (%)",50.0);
return if !reqpost();
vndx = getvalue(c1);
amount = getvalue(c2) / 100.0;
reqend();

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (24.26.205.242) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 05:23 pm:

the un-documented keystroke for puncuation in Note is 'SHIFT' plus the number of your choice.

I hate it when companies try to cut corners and not put stuff in the manual to save on typing costs. this feature alone should be it's own 20 page chapter in a manual.

for example the keystroke 'SHIFT'+ 8 gives you ' * '...........
Now what is this?
how is it used?
what are all the grammatical permintations of the usage?

is it a Noun, Verb, Adverb?

Can it be used as any of them??

Questions,Questions Questions and NO documentation.....

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Cholo (Cholo) (148.221.119.241) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 10:08 pm:

Okay, with absolute respect for doran´s excellent piece of code (although I can still see a few mods coming down that road to account for the excessive amount of exclamation signs that particular script version could unwantedly induce), I still prefer to do my punctuation MANUALLY!!!!! Sure, you can rig your notepad file with all sorts of scripts, but in the end it only takes the control away from the artist. I say let us punctuate manually, it's more laborious but in the end the results are much more organic!!! (who can call himself an artist if he needs a paperclip telling him how to go about his work anyway huh?)

By the way people, WORDWRAP is a FACT!!!!! I happen to be on the beta program for NP and all I can say is it absolutely ROCKS MY WORLD!!!!! I hear MS went so far as to hire talents from the original CygnusEd team to develop this feature.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Cholo (Cholo) (148.221.119.241) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 10:14 pm:

By the way, anyone who bitches endlessly about NP's lack of features and thinks they need wordpad to achieve those nifty special effects is just plain stoopid and just doesn't understand how to use NP's features!!!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jason Morris (Manfriday) (131.225.157.78) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:56 pm:

I would just like everyone here to know that this is the thread that persuaded me to buy Lightwave 7.

With a community of people this damn funny, how could I NOT buy LW?

I just ordered it today. It should be in my grubby, yet strangely alluring hands tomorrow..

Jason

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Randy Perkins (Ran215) (65.43.135.250) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:42 pm:

How much is the upgrade to the latest version of notepad ?????.....$495.00 for a competitive upgrade?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jason Morris (Manfriday) (131.225.157.78) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 02:02 pm:

I had to fax the cover of the Notepad manual to Newtek before they would give me the $995 competative upgrade price.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (24.26.204.35) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 03:34 am:

welcome to the wonderful world of 'NOTE"
glad to have you aboard... :)
and with a few months of trial and error and asprin and Natchos, you too could be doing art like Zach above.
'Happy Typing' as we say here in the wild wild west.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Pres Nevins (Pres) (210.171.12.165) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 09:37 am:

I'm glad this thread came to the top again because I have a new issue.

I'm sorry, but I've looked all over Microsoft's site and there's nothing at all about a Mac OS X native version of Notepad. They could just be waiting for MacWorld Expo to make their announcement, but until they get off their butts I'm just gonna have to use LightWave for time being, and I'm p*ssed.

I mean, they've got Excel and stuff for the Mac, why not Notepad? I'm sure they just don't want to port their "crown jewel" to a competing platform...

Hey, I just thought - Virtual PC! Omygod, yesss!! Lemme call Connectix! I'll let you guys know if this crazy idea works out!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Pres Nevins (Pres) (210.171.12.165) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 11:24 am:

Man, I am in heaven...
oh yes.
(Note how the Japanese version even supports native rendering of Japanese fonts!)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Anton Granik (Antongranik) (213.189.196.196) on Sunday, December 23, 2001 - 03:59 am:

:-))))))))))))))))))

Hey guys! Stop threading this thread or I'm gonna die because of the laugh disaster or something 'cause my stomach can't stomach it anymore. That's enough. That's enough! THAT'S ENOOOOOOOUGH!!!

:-))))))))))))))))))

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jim Williams (Hiraghm) (65.70.121.97) on Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 05:34 pm:

Did anyone in this thread ever explain how I can import Notepade format (.txt) files into Lightwave?


(silly as it may be, I could have used this the other day. I was doing a "stack of newspapers" render, and had to create an image map for the top page. I spent an hour typing text into Wordpad, formatted to 3 inch margins, capturing it with PSP, pasting the image... lather rinse repeat til I got it right. A kind of texture-mapped font would have been faster maybe.)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Roger A. Cotton (Digilusionist) (24.25.217.172) on Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 11:59 pm:

Jim

I think the only way to do it is by coughing up an additional $395 for the NP2LW conversion plug-in developed by Dynamic Realities. (Don't know why it wasn't just incorporated into the app code)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jim Williams (Hiraghm) (65.70.121.97) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 12:26 pm:

I was wondering...
Should I upgrade to Notepad XP? I hear it's a lot more feature-rich (read: bloated) but I'm concerned about the registration feature. Is it true that I have to list the number of stitches in my appendectomy scar in order to register NP XP? I'm really worried about this because I don't have an appendectomy scar.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mark (Markl) (207.235.86.2) on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 04:25 pm:

Hmmm...just to give you guys a word of warning, I tried Notepad XP, and after saving 5 documents, I had to call Microsoft to re-register it 8(.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mark (Markl) (207.235.86.2) on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 04:30 pm:

Here's another reason Notepad is better than Wordpad:

When you enter your permanent license key for Lightwave, if you save it in Wordpad, it puts .rtf at the end of it, making it License.key.rtf! Lightwave won't find your license key! Oh no! But, using Notepad, I just save the file (changing the file type to all files) and it works! Yay!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian Brizs (Zamzibam) (63.25.37.245) on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 08:49 pm:

I heard microsoft licensed shadow cursor for the next version of notepad from wordperfect. Will I need a new opengl card to use it. It must be graphic intensive?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Nick Lucio (Nickatnewtek) (66.69.44.62) on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 09:08 pm:

Notepad is for amatures. I use DualPad!

dualpad

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabriel Pasqualini (Gabrielp) (24.232.50.74) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 12:57 pm:

Hi !! I was trilled about this thread !! It just happend that my sister works on Discreet ! And they bought last december the license of Notepad to microsoft.

She send me a picture of version 2 beta. I hope lightwave will survive this time .....

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jim Williams (Hiraghm) (65.70.121.97) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 12:25 pm:

Okay, I finally broke down and upgraded to Wordpad 2K (only cost me $199 for the upgrade, and they included Win2000 for free!)

But now I have a problem. I downloaded all these nifty plugins from www.padcafe.com, but I can't seem to access any of them. Here's a list of the ones I got:

Paragraph.wps - automatically indents a line of text at the press of the tab key.

Magazine.wps - a set of templates for creating periodicals that will go out of business before the first issue hits the stands

Novel.wps - automatically creates a WHOLE BOOK for you.. seems to be bugged though. Every word on every page is spelled "aaaaa".

But what good are these cool plugins if I can't use them? 8c(
Have I been ripped-off in upgrading?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.21.203) on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 12:07 am:

Wow !!!!!
6 continious months for a thread has to be a record..............

No you didn't get ripped off, it's the new Bill Gates Backwards compatability regestration scheme.

somewhere in that program, hidden deep..deep...deep in a folder is a small file called 'money.exe'.

:O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jim Williams (Hiraghm) (65.70.121.97) on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 07:50 pm:

Yet another argument in favor of Lightwave over Notepad...

You can make better pr0n with Lightwave!
I know it seems difficult to believe, but if you place naughty bits drawn with Notepad side-by-side with naughty bits drawn with Lightwave, you'll see a clear superiority in the Lightwave rendering!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike Blackbourn (Mike_Rb) (142.179.1.60) on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 09:15 am:

hmmmmm pron.......

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Michael Ash (Mash) (63.205.140.127) on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 05:41 pm:

May I remind all of you that
Industrial Light and Magic uses JOT.

mash

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.21.93) on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 08:13 pm:

JOT ??????????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What gullible newbies HAHAHAHEHEHEHE

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andrew Morgan (Aegisprime) (194.117.133.118) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:04 pm:

Ne1 gOt A WaReZ CoPy oF NoTePaD?

I CN TrAdE u A tOp Crk oF AmIgA eDiTpAD...

ReEzPeCt!.!.!.!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Alan Kott (Akott) (63.207.239.52) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 08:09 pm:

Ackkk! That Warez copy of Notepad has a virus! I downloaded it yesterday and now my apple 2e won't boot back up. Now I can't play Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRR. Hope they come out with a pc version soon.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Justin Sirois (Jds580s) (24.178.75.243) on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 10:27 pm:

I've got a pal at MS who leaked this unofficial GUI for Notepad 8

Looks like they just went nuts with the feature requests. Hope it doesn't bog things down too much!

NP8.0 beta Interface

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Rory Berger (Solar56) (12.230.136.117) on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 01:00 am:

you people are sick in the head.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.39.162) on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 07:08 pm:

COOOOOLLLLL
Justin :O

Try THAT with JOT or Wordpad...HEHEHE

Sick ????

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian Brizs (Zamzibam) (209.162.16.26) on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 12:20 am:

You did not hear this from me, but lightwave uses some notepad technology. I think there might be a serious debate over this when it comes to legality and copyright. Run lightwave and open the LScript editor. Starting to see what I mean. I think it's possible to enable the notepad shadow cursor through this lscript thing to see what I mean, you have to switch the background color to white and load a pirated version of the nottebad core font. It's not advanced as notepad 8 obivously, but nevertheless it uses notepad code.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian Brizs (Zamzibam) (209.162.15.49) on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 02:01 am:

I am currently using Notepad 5.5b. I know, I know. UPGRADE! I will as soon as I can. I am having problems with a render. Here are my settings. Carlo Garamond radiosity is cool, but for some reason it messes up the anti-aliasing settings and yes yes, no shading reduction in 5.5b I promise I will upgrade. Any advice. It's still a WIP. I was also thinking the lens flares might be too bright.

WIP

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (216.224.160.68) on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 05:28 pm:

Make sure your Carlo font is the real one. Cracked versions use the 'Old' Atari font.This looks like what might be going wrong.And because you are STILL using 5.5 and not 8 each letter has to have it's settings set to AA as they are not under the same tab, (this was a MS bug).And Lens Flare needs to have the falloff setting set as you will remove the sharp edges (ver 8 was fixed in this area).
hope that helps

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (216.224.160.68) on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 05:30 pm:

5 more months and this thread will have gone for 1 year.... AMAZING :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian Brizs (Zamzibam) (216.224.129.205) on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 01:49 am:

Thanks steve! I just got Inside Notepad by Dan Ablan, no relation I think. He says the same thing about AA.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.22.59) on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 02:28 pm:

See what AA does??
Not Dan but Don.....
Hard to read some letters if they are not correctly formed :)
And I think I read somewhere that Don is Dans cousin 4 times removed (But he keeps coming back :O )

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kim olisun (Kim) (208.63.181.12) on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 07:48 pm:

notepad vs. lightwave??? What??? are you crazy!?! There's NO COMPARISON!!! NOTEPAD is WAYYY better then lightwave, sheesh Scott Wilkinson, you "wasted 9 hours trying to figuere out how to animate"??? Took me about 1 second!.... In all the time I've used notepad NOT ONCE has it crashed and it NEVER bogs down my comp, and is SUPER easy to use...

PS. okay I just HAD to drag this thread back up :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Wilson (Robewil) (64.60.61.194) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 03:02 pm:

To those of you who see this post and wonder what this is all about. It really began last summer when, it seemed that there were new posts every day bashing Lightwave and saying how BrandX and BrandY were better. It still happens now, but not so frequently. It was getting very tiresome to me and I'm sure, many others, not to mention Newtek. One of the commonly used topic formats for these posts were "Is (pick your 3D app here) going to replace Lightwave?" I finally got really disgusted with a topic named " Lightwave is SH*T!"

After reading many of these posts, it became apparent to me that many people don't understand the fact that while maybe not every single feature of Lightwave is necessarily best in class, Lightwave delivers extremely well. People who claim "you can't do this in Lightwave" are really just revealing their own limitations. In the " Lightwave is SH*T!" post mentioned above, I decided it was time to expose how silly many of these Lightwave bashing posts were by comparing the most meager of programs I could think of, which happened to be Notepad and find a bunch of reasons why it could be declared "better than Lightwave." I intended to leave it at that, but obviously, many Lightwave people saw my point and wanted to push it further, thus, this "Notepad Vs. Lightwave" post.

This post has now endured for over 9 months. I'm not sure it's the record on Newtek's discussion forum but it may be. I must admit, I'm a bit proud of this fact. But I am also overjoyed with how the Lightwave community has responded. Instead of sinking to discussion consisting of "Lightwave sucks", "Lightwave Rules", "Does not", "Does too", etc. We fight back in a much more creative and humorous fashion. For those who fight the fight, Thank you.

Robert Wilson

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Chad Campbell (Onemanmedia) (66.169.185.69) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 03:58 pm:

Notepad sounds great, and by looking at the work created with it in this post, Im blown away. My question is concerning 3rd party plugin support. Are there plugins out there that let you do things like outlined text, etc... Do you need a plugin to control kerning?
chad

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.29.221) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:00 pm:

Use the space bar :O

This thread is still king of the heap..even counting the undo and integrate threads
but the LW vs Dodge Pickup could come in a close second, haven't counted tho :O :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.29.221) on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:02 pm:

Oh forgot example, as they are always needed on this thread...
NON_KERNED
K E R N E D
:O :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike Foy (Kingslugg) (66.47.191.138) on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:57 am:

I just through the grapevine that the new version of Notepad will have multiple undo's just like the toaster and also a construction history stack. Don't quote me on it though.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By André Mikal Hitsøy (Pixelranger) (193.71.76.2) on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:15 am:

Well, I just wanted to tell you all that I just received Notepad XP by aquiring an appendectomy scar, and I just gotta tell you it was worth every stitch!!!!!!!

Multiple undo's, word wrap, and it it now works as a modal panel within the windows interface. It also has several seach functions and last but not least it has got something LW hasn't:

integrated help file including online resources right from within NP.

Now I'll have to go check out some strange abdominal sounds I've been getting since the surgery, so if you'll all excuse me...nghh....

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (216.224.160.53) on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:00 pm:

Strange..My LW has intergrated Help files.
I got sticky notes all over my Monitor screen.....
And for online resources I use a scaled down version of my wifes Clothes drying line with a pully on opposite walls with string between them and when I need an 'online resource' I just pull the line till I get to the one I need...
:O :O

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andy Lackow (Craftmatic) (4.43.236.138) on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:11 pm:

Notepad, shmotepad! I use RecycleBin 9.83. It has superior particle disappearance capabilities and the Norton plugin suite is, well sweet. Especially the Norton Protected Pornography Files plugin that won't let you hid your incredible waste of time & disk space from your wife, girlfriend or mother (If you are living with all three, Norton strongly urges you to move out of that particular trailor home). Also with the Norton plugin you have unlimited undos! One more thing - RecycleBin 9.83 rules over Macintosh's Trash 5.2 - Nuff said!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Andrew Morgan (Aegisprime) (194.117.133.118) on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:46 pm:

Sorry Andy - I know we share the same name but I have to differ on your ill-informed opinions of Recycle Bin. As an age old Amiga fan I struggled long and hard with the decision of PC or Mac and in the end (based on the fact that Microsoft has more ads on TV than Apple do) I bought a PC. One of the key features that sold me on Windows XP was the fact that it had a "Recycle Bin" (and not a shiny waste paper basket whose only purpose seems to be to get bigger or smaller whenever the pointer is near it) but quite frankly I feel cheated and ripped off. I've consigned many dud renders, two shoddy first person shoot-em-ups and a copy of Maya PLE to my so-called "Recycle Bin" and thus far it has yet to recycle anything. I was hoping at the very least I could recycle PLE into Maya Unlimited but it appears I'm s**t out of luck...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Raymond Trace (Raymond_Trace) (205.188.200.139) on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 05:53 pm:

I am such a fool! I just blew $900 on ebay for what I thought was a full version of Notepad. It turns out that it was just the update already publicly available for download on the microsoft site.

Kudos for maintaining this relevant thread for nearly a year!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By William H Gates IIII (Williamgates) (208.62.125.146) on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 11:55 am:

LOL! You guys are fantastic. Thank you for showing an overwhelming support for my greatly superior product that is the one and only Notepad TM, RM, SM, © 1985-2002 Microsoft Inc. While LightWave is a formidible oppenent I plan to remedy that by purchasing Lightwave from Luxology/Newtek and removing all of its usefull functions and releasing it as a new and improved model to descimate its user base thus making Notepad the No1 Package of choice. Thank you for realizing Notepad's superior nature.

Bill Gates
Chairman and Chief Software Architect - Microsoft Inc.
http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/default.asp

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By André Mikal Hitsøy (Pixelranger) (193.71.76.2) on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 01:22 pm:

Hey, Bill!!!

Why are you mailing from your cousin Williams machine? Doesn't your mom allow you to use the internet at home anymore? -Well, you gotta understand. At least you could pay your own phone bill, Bill! Maybe if you eat up all of your dinner...

André

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ali Matar (Pixelato) (212.187.157.202) on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 04:24 pm:

Notepad agrees to install, which LW7.5 won't. That, in my mind, clinches it for notepad.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Martin Eriya (Martinlw) (62.49.17.136) on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 05:24 pm:

Okay - I upgraded to Wordpad 2k just a few weeks ago - now I understand theres a "free upgrade" from Notepad thats gonna be announced next week and I must say Im not impressed.

WHAT ABOUT THE LONGSTANDING NOTEPAD USERS!!!

Dont forget us - we've kept the scene going with contributions all this time. To be paid back by allowing the newest users to get upgraded for NOTHING is insulting !

Im going to email Newtek about this situation, but Im not sure whether it will work out. Maybe you guys should do the same - just to show them we are united on this issue.

Martin...


(Incidentally - its 20 past midnight here - I want you all to know that Im annoyed as hell at this thread. Apart from spending the last 10 minutes reading it - and now posting - I laughed so hard in the middle that I woke the house up - great - thanks a bunch :) )

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Martin Eriya (Martinlw) (62.49.17.136) on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 05:30 pm:

RESULT!!!

Newtek answered - theyve despatched a copy of PhraseToaster 3 and put me on the Wordpad 2002 Beta test list. The apologise for the upset - but they cant make a habit of "moving the goalposts" so this will be the last time - plus now I will obviously be paying for the obligatory WP 2004 upgrade - although there is a 2k2.5 interim upgrade coming that will be free to all. Good news all round Im sure :)

Martin...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lernie D Ang (Faulknermano) (202.57.83.16) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:25 am:

doran's n-script is missing a closing brace; that's why it isnt compiling properly.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.229) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 08:04 am:

Hey, you notepad users are really missing out. Upgrade to wordpad! :p It's rendering capabilities are far better.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (216.224.158.15) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 06:27 pm:

The simplicity of Note is in line with the universal Ying and Yang..
Any tampering with it on my part will cause the Universe to tear and allow the Borg thru, and as they use a biohazardous version of JOT, I will refrain from doing so.

This thread just keeps going...and going...and going

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kim olisun (Kim) (208.63.180.129) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 08:51 pm:

.....and going

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lernie D Ang (Faulknermano) (202.57.83.16) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 09:24 pm:

notice how, if you're running wordpad on a win2k box, and when you save a text document (notepad doc - no formatting) it gives you this consistent and irritating message reminding you over and over and over and over again if you are really really really really sure about saving this document without any formatting? "you are about to save the document in Text_only Format, which will remove all formatting, are you sure you want to do this?" i mean, what the heck is it trying to do? there IS NO FORMATTING IN THAT FILE IN THE FIRST PLACE! sounds like a forced conversion to me...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (216.224.161.120) on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 09:17 am:

That message is for NOOBIES.
It is a way for MS to get people to call thier 35 dollar a min phoneline to get put on hold.
Other than that there is no real porpose to it and can be ignored by hitting NO NO NO
and word is not compatable with LW.
But I use 'Note' so I may be biased.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Martyn Bibby (Merz) (62.254.0.4) on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 02:13 pm:

I`m sorry but you lot have lost the plot!

What is the use of notepad - it will only save tichy little files no matter
how much text you put in - it`s taking ages to fill my 60GB HD.

Whilst Word XP is wonderfull, with a bit of coaxing, a few crashes, I have
managed to create a totally blank document 105MB in size. Now, try doing
that in Lightwave or notepad. Size Matters!

(if anyone would like proof to this claim I will happily e-mail the 105MB
Blank Doc)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (216.224.158.229) on Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:32 pm:

Martyn,Martyn,Martyn.....
If it is taking you ages to fill yer 60 gig HD then you don't spend enough time in front of yer computer taking notes.
As I have banished all pens and pencils from the office, it now takes no time to fill the server I have online for just note taking which has a raid setup with 320 gigs space...
and that is with my hunt and peck system of typing :O
You need to increase your computer time to no less than 20 hours a day..
Don't worry about what else is going on in the real world...it will still be there when ya retire :)
But Word XP ????????

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By chris ruppel (Tylerd) (65.71.85.233) on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 08:28 am:

May I offer a new solution for all you close-minded NotePad users...try OS X's TextEdit. Its workflow surpasses NotePad and WordPad. It has rtf and txt modes, which allow quicker rendering times, depending on the model being rendered. TextEdit also adds new fetures to the "Find and Replace" editor, such as returning a count for replaced items, among other things.
TextEdit also comes with a much better icon. It is 128x128 pixels like most OS X native icons, so it is easier to click on if your vision is 20/800.
Apple is now offering a student discount on TextEdit. Be aware, though. Serious measures have already been taken toward individuals that buy student copies of TextEdit and distibute them on eBay for the full price.

Chris Ruppel
TextEdit Representitave
(read: bored college student)

>chris

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jim Williams (Hiraghm) (65.70.121.97) on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 09:51 am:

But the question is, does TextEdit have .lwo file compatibility? How about .3ds? .md3?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By chris ruppel (Tylerd) (65.71.85.233) on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 10:26 am:

Why, indeed it does. Below is a render of 'apple.lwo'

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End Render

As you can see, many of the square artifacts have been eliminated using the F&R AA process embedded in TextEdit, a plugin that isn't even available on Flay.com for NotePad. Just thought I'd point that out.

Oh, a bit of history concerning the two programs.
NotePad was written by MAX writalot and TextEdit was writted by LeWis 1337.

>chris

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.22.196) on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 05:29 pm:

Beware...
Text Edit will cost you in the neighborhood of 3500 bucks !!!
I took Chris at his word and immediatly went out to get Text Edit at Comp USA but the salesman said that I would have to get a Mac to go with it to run correctly, as it won't run on a PC.
Didn't mention that part,Chris :)
Then I had to get Photoshop,and some other programs because my versions would not run on the Mac, now I gotta get a new VT2 board and a new copy of LW.
So at this moment I don't think that Text Edit is worth the price.
And I just remembered that I DO have it for the Amiga, so I really wastede alot of money. :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By chris ruppel (Tylerd) (65.71.85.233) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 09:40 am:

Yeah, well let the buyer beware...

>chris

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ana Mahtani (Anaquista) (80.3.64.4) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 12:35 pm:

complete newbie. Where can I purchase notepad, and does it come with wings? Is there a clean version of it like say a sanitary notepad withput any bugs?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robin Oberg (Robinoberg) (217.208.78.115) on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 05:58 pm:

i used to have notepad98, and now i have upgraded to notepadXP. cant say i regret it, perfect support for foreign languages and it can save through a keycommand.

im not into ascii so i guess im not utilizing notepad to its extent as you pro's, but i can still get my message through :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jim Williams (Hiraghm) (65.70.121.97) on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:54 pm:

I installed Notepad '98 on my Libretto the other day and I have to say, it doesn't things Lightwave 7.5 never could do on a 640 x 480 120 mhz pentium. And in only 32 megs of ram!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lernie D Ang (Faulknermano) (202.57.88.141) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 06:39 am:

you must be a hobbiest. high end software, high end hardware, simple as that. wordpad rules!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dan Berger (Evenflcw) (213.67.140.243) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 06:48 am:

But what is highend?
I've seen some awsome stuff come out of Notepad (don't know what version), and I hear some pro studios occasionally use it aswell, they just don't brag about it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By chris ruppel (Tylerd) (65.71.85.233) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 03:32 pm:

Geez... two more days and this thread will have lived for a year!

>chris

PS screw TextEdit, go with BBEdit. their motto is "it doesn't suck"

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (64.255.87.76) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 08:46 pm:

highend;
According to Funk and Wiggles Dictionary for the Insane:
Highend-Adverb, used to descdribe latest thing-a-ma-bob out. Also used to describe a fact;("This is the most highend my wallet could afford")

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kim olisun (Kim) (208.63.180.73) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 09:20 am:

"Is there a clean version of it like say a sanitary notepad without any bugs? "

Actualy in 10 years I've never had a notepad crash (I'd like to see anyone say that about any other 3D prog.)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (64.255.83.249) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 07:03 pm:

HMMM
Sanitary notepad..
That one of those women thingys?
Been there
done that
Not a pretty site to see one of those plastered on the monitor.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kenneth Fong (Kiffer_Wanderer) (210.187.114.50) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 07:48 pm:

Hahahaha! LOL!!
By the way, i hear that Microsoft is shipping some high-end hardware that enhances the usage of Notepad. As of yet, how they work is still undisclosed. They are:

1. Arm-pads
2. Shin-pads

And if you purchase the whole NotePad Pro package (which includes NotePad XP and the hardware mentioned above), you'll receive a free table ornament.
Description: Spiral ring on top, has many layers (most probably paper-like material) and cutely dubbed "Notepad"!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By David Liu (Phil2dot6) (24.48.208.42) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 01:12 am:

Happy one year anniversary on this topic! I couldn't believe that I have read through all of it. It was a great waste of time, I gotta admit. Also, I am proud to say Notepad kicks serious butt considering that upgrades are free.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By brad gordon (Anim8r) (12.101.14.2) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:39 am:

Yeah, Happy Birthday you little thread you.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By chris ruppel (Tylerd) (65.71.85.233) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:20 am:

Where's the cake?

>chris

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.38.53) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:43 am:

Happy aniversary,
Happy Aniversary,
Happy Aniversary,
HAAAAAPPPPPyyy Aniversary

Sung to the tune of the same name as seen on the Flintstones.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Michael Ross (Mikefrhowetx) (209.151.96.69) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 12:39 pm:

This thread is like listening to a bunch of battered women talking about their wonderful husbands! I have a dual boot M$-W2K-Redhat Linux that I have benched marked Linux gnotepad+ 1.3.3 and there is NO difference in render times from M$-notepad! OH!!For the price of an M$-OS-Notepad install I can buy a Pentium4 1.8G render node and up grades are Free Forever. You Must first admit your abusive enabling from a company that has profit of > 1billion a month! What a bunch of suckers. Try going to http://www.linuxartist.org/ to start the healing process. Mike

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By John Fornasar (Jfornasar) (63.38.83.219) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 01:14 pm:

I wonder if this thread is calculated into the United States Productivity Reports?

Reprinted from:
Wail Street Journal

2001-2002 3D Productivity Drops 21.765%

A catastrophic in 3D production was announced yesterday in Washington, DC.
Polly Gone, Senior Analyst at the U.S. Labor Bureau stated that there was a 25% drop in 3D wireframe meshes produced last year. Surfacing dropped 18.53%. "This is attributed to a forum thread on a Newtek Lightwave forum - whatever that is - called Notepad vs. LightWave." Ms. Gone went on to state "We haven't been able to compute the damage done to 'Rendering', much less Radiosity'... our calculators don't go that high".
Federal agents are on the lookout for one "Robert Wilson", a now infamous productivity killer.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Wilson (Robewil) (66.42.54.43) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 11:22 pm:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

All of you fell into my evil trap. Soon, legions of computer users will be dumping their Lightwaves and rendering in NotePad instead. There will be a NotePad empire. My new apprentice, Darth Verdana, will seek and destroy the remnants of the dying Republic of Lightwavre-wielding soldiers. NotePad will rule the Galaxy!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Facial Deluxe (Olivier) (212.198.0.93) on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 01:30 am:

Use the Pad Luke.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Rob Roy (Cyeborg) (195.37.69.11) on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 04:39 am:

i think we must talk back serious again !
this topic is not about fun !

;-)

i prefer my notepad, because it is much more user-friendly and not so complicated to use than lightwave. it had cost me one week to find out how to add text in modeler. the fonts must first be added to an internal font-list!! this isn´t good workflow...
notepad got all his fonts ready for takeoff and need no adjust :-)
much easier to handle ! my vote for notepad !

btw : this message was rendered in notepad and translated to ASCII with an OCR-Program

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Cholo (Cholo) (200.67.231.196) on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:30 pm:

Well, if the minds that gave us notepad are making >1 billion a month in profits then maybe there is more to notepad than meets the eye after all. Scary! ;)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Facial Deluxe (Olivier) (212.198.0.93) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 04:46 am:

to pad or notepad, that is the question...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Steve White (Hrgiger) (63.53.0.198) on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 11:50 am:

I heard that Luxology was developing the next version of Notepad. Chuck Baker will flatly deny that rumor though.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kenneth Fong (Kiffer_Wanderer) (210.187.114.50) on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:03 pm:

(hey... why da sudden silence for the last 3 days...?)

You know, guys, we really ought to have a Worldwide Notepad Convention. Looking at the number of users since this thread started, and the number of new users influenced to join the NotePad community... i think we need it. ^_^

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Matt Clary (Mattclary) (208.255.196.54) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:10 am:

This thread is a virus. :)

http://www.memecentral.com/vmintro.htm

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.37.79) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 10:19 am:

This thread is also habit forming, and Senator Clinton is looking into that very fact (from what I hear),because it is too much fun and that will not be allowed.
So everyone is lying low right now.
Soon the investigation will go to commitee and will get lost in the shuffle, and we will all return.
So keep the NOTE alive...
Note long and prosper...
A note a day keeps the virus away...
A note saved is a note well written....
Every time it rains
it rains
Notes from heaven....

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lernie D Ang (Faulknermano) (202.57.88.148) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 11:02 am:

this thread is getting weird...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 11:51 am:

Did you know that Al Gore invented Notepad shortly before he invented the Internet?!? :p

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Derek Mebius (Mebek) (205.188.195.54) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:38 pm:

Am I the only one who thinks Polly Gone is cute? And I just love her kids, Skelly and Luxe!

Seriously though, on several occasions I've pushed Notepad to its Letter-per-word limit. Of course, I'm still running 2K.5b, so I don't know if the latest version has fixed these limits. Personally I'd like to see some scenes with over 65,535 words per paragraph. Especially when you get into the true poetry that some people put into it!

Another thing that bugs me is that after a while, everyone's Notepad artwork tends to look the same. I'm wondering if everyone's just in a rut with whatever the new, trendy toolset is. Like when they implemented Printer Support, suddenly EVERYONE had to be printing their artwork. In fact, whenever I'd post something that WASN'T printed, no one would even look at it or comment on it. Basically if it's not printed, indented, or contain some italicized words, it doesn't get noticed.

By the way, has anyone seen Character Map? It's a really cool program that lets you browse the different symbols in a font. A must-have for anyone who's tried to rig a character in Notepad!

Later,
--Mebek

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:51 pm:

Just a doodle during lunch. Total time, start to finish, counting render is about 12 minutes.

NotePad Rules

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kenneth Fong (Kiffer_Wanderer) (210.187.114.50) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:46 pm:

Wow, what a render! By the way, Jeff, did you do the trees yourself or imported an object from somewhere? Being a newbie, trees are way over me. Still trying to eally get the hang of the interface.

Any advice?

Kiffer

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (209.162.21.87) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:37 pm:

Jeff, I think if yo looked into Dereks advice and used the charecter map, then you would be able to get better and cleaner renders, IE the right charecters in the right places would smooth out those jaggies.

A note in the hand is worth two Word on the screen

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 07:00 am:

I agree. The shape of the characters make all the difference. If/when I have some time I'd like to do a gigancic dot painting - something using pointilism effects with the full notepad being about two monitors wide, and maybe shrunk up later... Any of you could give it a try... I'm always low on time.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Leonard Ritter (Paniq) (217.226.119.238) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 08:04 am:

I heard that the guys over at lindows.com work hard to incorporate a new crossover program named "NoteWave" or "LightPad" into their OS, which combines the best out of two designer worlds into one application. Looks pretty promising so far. I think this will shut up this stupid discussion for good.

(Tho I heard NewTek and Microsoft have already filed lawsuits.)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 08:12 am:

The buzz is out...
http://sv1.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9741

I'd really like to see someone try to do a better job than I did, using just notepad, maybe highlighting before screenprint, or using screen capture devices like screencorder to get avis that are then coverted to gifs, after a little cleanup. I see lots of potential for something really bizzare, simple, and interesting here.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:30 am:

A render during Lunch Break

Gotta love dingbats!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:41 am:

Minimalism at its best
My dream home

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 11:06 am:

Oh my God! You Killed Kenny - You BASTARDS

He's kinda hard to see laying under that white sheet

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 11:49 am:

Ahoy there Matey!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:28 pm:

Keep the children's eyes closed... That calculator is Satanic ;)

This is a really old trick, and it works best on real calculators with sans serif fonts...

Heaven or _____

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:30 pm:

Let's see some onion skinning in Lightwave.  It'd have to be better than this junk in Notepad!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By voxel obi (Voxel) (193.251.187.40) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:47 pm:

Are you lame? i personnaly use Edit from the dos command line. thats rox ! you can do everything
edit learn the right way guys... and use the french edition, it's optimized...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Alan Kott (Fallen) (63.198.18.21) on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:01 pm:

When they port LW over to Linux I'll be using the Rosetta stone of editors, the VI editor! Now, that's an editor!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Joe (Joecool) (63.148.81.80) on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 09:50 pm:

http://mysite.iptic.com/joecool/Notepad.bmp

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Joe (Joecool) (63.148.81.80) on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 09:54 pm:

1,http://mysite.iptic.com/joecool/Notepad.bmp

I got a warez version of lightpad 3.0 beta version! It's not registered. though why you have to register a beta version, I'm not sure....
But it's awesome. As you can see, it has the combined power of lightwave, and notepad all in one. On the bottom left, you can see the realtime preview rendered version with anti-aliasing, and the left bottom doesn't have it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Joe (Joecool) (63.148.81.80) on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 09:58 pm:

http://mysite.iptic.com/joecool/notepad.bmp

I got a warez version of lightpad 3.0 beta version! It's not registered. though why you have to register a beta version, I'm not sure....
But it's awesome. As you can see, it has the combined power of lightwave, and notepad all in one. On the bottom left, you can see the realtime preview rendered version with anti-aliasing, and the left bottom doesn't have it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (207.12.210.93) on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:22 pm:

good thing its BETA..
Needs work on the interface

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By -EsHrA- (Marlon) (217.120.147.10) on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:55 am:

behold... notepad pro 1.5 is out!

Now here's some real competition for lightwave :)

pdf support, skin support, winamp support and more!


http://www.zhakaas.com/npro/


Cheers,

-EsH-

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (207.12.210.158) on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 06:08 pm:

HELLO THERE
plug-in

becomes

ELLO-Hay HERE
plug-in-Tay

in pig latin
should be

ello-hey here-tey
lug-in pey

there seems to be some coding errors, but looks nice so far

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Alexander Karpenko (_Alex) (24.102.226.226) on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:47 pm:

Ok until now I did not contribute to this thread, but a little bit of fun won't harm so here you go...

Behold, the true power of notepad :O:

http://www.inflash.com/geturl.php?link_id=651

http://www.inflash.com/pics/manwalk.gif

Now can LW top these cool animations or what?
Heheheheh :) :) :)...

-Alex

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (207.12.210.107) on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:36 pm:

that manwalk was cool :)
Newtek...take note of the compatition, he's catching up...
and take notes on notepad

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jeff Thomann (Mastermesh) (161.130.115.254) on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:20 am:

pdf export in that notepad pro is overrated... You can technically make pdfs with just a print driver if you print to file instead of paper and have postscript on when you do it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (207.12.210.65) on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 12:54 pm:

Technicalities !!
OH THE HUMANITY !!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Lernie D Ang (Faulknermano) (202.57.90.46) on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 04:06 am:

voxel: that's so cool. i think i wanna dig up my old copy of EDIT* ;)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mark Lucio (Markl) (24.28.145.118) on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:01 pm:

Good Lord I thought this thread was long dead! :/

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By steve (Prospector) (207.12.210.65) on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:16 pm:

NO WAY !!!!
this has more individual files now than any database in the world except..
That New World Order computer based in Switzerland thaTt monitors every human on the planet.
and
the Aminet

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Argon Hennley (Argon) (66.69.7.102) on Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 01:32 am:

WAKE UP! Geezzz... i just wasted a good 35 minutes reading this thread. The longest running thread and you guys drop the ball! Pick that sucker up and run with it. Man. Now that i think about it, notepad IS getting quite exhausting... ok, maybe this thread does need to stay dead.

Nevermind.

np rUleZ!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Richard Stallsmith (Lwaddict) (63.125.144.5) on Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 08:52 am:

Notepad for XP Pro question...

I've just got Notepad for XP up and running.
Wow, what a pretty window...
but I keep getting this fuzzy look.
(sorry, don't know how to post a rendered copy)

I'm working with George on this new trilogy
and the timeline doesn't exactly leave room for
these types of problems but we switched to Notepad due to the issues we're having with Toaster CG.

Can someone help?
Is it my video card?
Should it be from a specific company?
Is this another version of software that only works within the very limited specs given by it's creators?

Please help or George isn't going to release the DVDs of all the movies to you until 2020.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Argon Hennley (Argon) (207.235.86.252) on Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 06:39 pm:

Ah... yep. There is actually a bug inside the complex ASCI rendering engine that only shows up when running XP. Notepad actually goes threw several iterations of offset blur when doing high resolution renders once installed. There is a trick though. What you can do is drop Notepad's output resolution to just under 1000k. Render your scene, then import the output back into Notepad and re-render again using the "Load from Rendered Ouput" flag. This works for me. I should post a tutorial on the NewTek website but to be honest i'm too darn lazy.

-
argon

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Richard Stallsmith (Lwaddict) (63.125.144.5) on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 08:13 am:

I was also told not to try live switching with Notepad using the Toaster.

Apparently, you have to save your file, render to another file, import that file into TeD, enable overlay, then try and switch without crashing.

This is too much for a live environment...
I'm going back to DosEdit for now,
it was/is stable and have dozens of copies here.

Does anyone know if this is going to run on XP Pro?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Facial Deluxe (Olivier) (212.198.0.93) on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 09:00 am:

Richard, I will tell u soon I'm waiting for my new dual Xeon with XP Pro.
Hope it can handle the Notepad, can't wait to try that smoothshift function for typo (they call it "Bold", Don't know why).
Does Notepad support Multithread ?
BTW, I have troubles rendering through net. It doesn't render all the letters of the sentence...
Any idea?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Richard Stallsmith (Lwaddict) (63.125.144.5) on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 08:38 am:

Facial,

There was a general post from the Notepad technical team yesterday morning.

They say that there's another patch version that'll be available soon. There were also promises that it may address some of the many flaws in the current program.

The tech even stated that an entirely new version of the software would be out soon and we could happily kick down with some more of our hard earned money for a "potentially" working version. (even though we've already done this).

I'm beginning to take a more serious look at swiping the webpage script used to post in this forum and use it instead.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By richard hagen (Beverins) (148.4.33.125) on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 12:39 pm:

Notepad is for L00Z3RZ.

ED for the Amiga R0X0RZ!

ED FOR3V3R!!!

Typing CTRL * to save is only for the L33T among us! If only Lightwave had this functionality!!!

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