Oh, no! It's more Dan Ablan!

[jerbil22]

Hey guys. This is my first organic model. Any thoughts? Still need to do hair obviously and I'm thinking the eybrows may not quite be there yet? Should I fill em out in plug-ins or in textures do you think?

[NightEye]

:eek:
holy F!!!
That looks great :D

[jerbil22]

Hey, thanks! I've spent like four days straight on it to try and get it to look somewhat realistic, so I'm glad you like it! But I have NO idea how to do hair. Has anyone here tackled realistic hair and been somewhat successful?

Thanks!

[sKb875]

Wow that looks really good. :) What if you did the hair like you did the eye lashes?

[Luckysevens]

Looks pretty good. My only sugestion would be to work on the texturing a little, the specularity looks a little high and the lipstick doest look like it matches up right with the lips. The eyes look very nice, very life like.

[shockwave]

Is that the female head tutorial from Inside LW 7?

[freez]

that looks like it needs some sasquatch, probably the best tutorial i found for getting hair (on the very same head as found in inside lightwave 6+7) can be found here
http://www.worley.com/TutFiles/StuTut/index.htm

it really gets the head model looking human

as for the eyebrows, it depends on the level of detail needed, from a distance they can be painted on, but for up close i made them with sasquatch

[dablan]

Hey Jerbil,
looks good!

Maybe ease up on the color of the lips.
Then, work on your lighting a bit. Try using an area light, and use some white luminous boards, with radiosity on. Use a kicker light (a hair / back light) with a soft blue or orange behind the head. Bring your camera up a bit, look at her straight on, rather than from below.

Great work - keep it up!

[jerbil22]

Hey guys.

I'm looking at this at home now instead of the laptop and was surprised at the huge change in the image contrast. On the laptop it looked nice and soft. Not so much on the ol' projection monitor. Strange...

This particular render was in fact done with the luminous board set up from the tutorial. One key spotlight and two luminous boards to provide the fill and rim.


I think you're right about the lips Seven. I'll change that.

And yes, it is the tutorial from inside lightwave 7

Thanks for the hair link freez. I'll check that out and post an update once I've got some hair on this sucker. The eyebrows are scaring me a bit though, cause I'll probably have to re-arrange the polygon structure if I want to sas-light em.

Yo, Dan! Didn't know you actually went to this board. That's cool. Thanks for the comments, I really appreciate that. I agree with the lip color comment and I'll try the straight on approach with the coloured backlight.

P.S. I've worked on some live action films and the description for the bounce card lighting setup is perfect. I don't know if you wrote that particular part of the chapter or not, but right on!

Thanks for the comments so far, I'll post an update soon!

[jerbil22]

Alrighty, we have an update here. I've softened the lighting, now using an area light instead of a spot and then a fill and a rim light.

I've softened the lip color as per recomondations and tried to do some more work on the eyebrows. And freez, you're a lifesaver with that tutorial link. I used that one a lot.

Anyway, here's the image. What do you guys think?

[themaxx]

bravo. looks like kirsten dunst.

[Jimzip]

bravo. looks like kirsten dunst.

Haha! Very true..

Nice work there jerbil.

Jimzip :D

[SODAPLAY]

She's cute :)

- SODA

[Sastira]

Ahhh... if only she weren't CG ;)

Very nice!

[jerbil22]

hey, thanks for all the compliments guys! It's off to create the body now! Wish me luck and I'll post some updates as I go!

And, JimZip, in response to your signature, I've been dreaming in wireframe since I started this project. It's starting to drive me mad :)

[MacDaddyKash]

Good stuff! I can't wait to see the body. Also, can you post some wireframes? The only thing I really knoticed was her hair. Have you tried it with sasquatch or saslite? I'd also lighten the color of her eyebrows and maybe use sasquatch or saslite on them too. Keep up the good work!

-Dustin

[caesar]

Guys, i dont want to be a party pooper, and I even model heads, but this model is not realistic at all...it has the proportion, but its looking cg...ths skin has the same color all over the model...:confused:

[byte_fx]

Looks great!

You might try shifting the beginning of the eyebrows a little bit.Under the so-called 'beauty guides' women's eyebrows start at a point vertically aligned with the edge of the inner eyefold.

Just a bit a of trivia I picked up somewhere.

All in all very good work.

byte_fx - sometimes a nit picker :)

[jerbil22]

Here's a preview of the body thus far. I'm about to start work on the pelvis and butt. I posted some wireframes with the stuff but if you want a closer one of any part let me know and I'll throw it up.

I can't afford sasquatch but I have done the hair in saslite with the tutorial mentioned earlier in this thread. Do you think I should thicken it out some more?

Sasquatch on the eyebrows is a good idea. I'll try and get that to work.

Don't worry caesar. I appreciate the advice more than the "nice job". Do you have any ideas on how to make the color on the face a little more interesting?

Thanks for the tip Byte_fx. I'll look into that as well.

How does the body look thus far for geometry?


I hope I did these pics right :eek:

[jerbil22]

Nope. looks like I'm dumb. I couldn't figure out how to put two pics off the harddrive into one message. I'll just do two posts. Sorry guys.

[jerbil22]

here's a back view

[itos]

thats good man! i like the bump map of the skin of your head, also is pretty good the shape of the woman, maybe you could define it more and the eye brows too, well hope to see the final render of your model!

[MacDaddyKash]

Damn you and your clean modeling! Ha, it looks good. I need to clean my model up some. Also, what are you using for reference photos? Good stuff!

-Dustin

P.S. The neck looks crazy as a mug!*

*it looks good.

[jerbil22]

well looks like the consensus is that the eyebrows need the most work so I'll redo them and find a way to make them kick ***.

Crazy as a mug. That sounds australian somehow. I have a friend from there that always says "That goes off like a frog in a sock" and I'm like... uh... sure, why not.

Anyway, for reference I'm using Aneta Keyes helpfully provided by www.3d.sk There's a twist though, since I'm too broke to pay for a membership I just made a mosaic out of the thumbnails and used photoshop to interpolate the file bigger and it actually worked out surprisingly well.

(Not using her as reference for the head though. That was just the reference included in the Inside Lightwave 7 tutorial)

[tommmy]

I like your first images the most.....
great work! been trough the book myself, but had some trouble with texturing and the iff format n
ever solved it..
but...
your body work isn;t as good as the head..
Her umm..(let me grap my dictionary) hu..okay.."chest" is to big..
The ribs end to low..
her breast need some work..(but you probeli kwen that hehe)
and where the her neck reaches the chest isn;t as real as it should be. maby strech it up and broaden the space between the
(in dutch called . key-bones (collarbone haha still had my dictionary beside me))

them I wonderd why you had such a wierd angel for your first images but its problemy cause the ears arn't as cool as the rest of the head!..It a hrad part..but for absolut sadisfaction try to fix it....

ow..thats souds a bit negative..It are just tips it reallly is looking good!
When i finishd my haed I directly started on the body also.
and it wasn;t easy..

good luck!
(this is how I ended up)

[Fate]

OMG
It's hideous !
I would very much like to tell you what's wrong , but I wouldn't know what to start with....
Just a few things though: the neck is way too long , the face is dull , and she's got those horrible FROG-FEET.... not to mention that bullet-hole in her stomach :p
Don't panic, my first woman model was at least as horrible as this one...