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Jim_C
11-16-2006, 02:09 PM
If Speed Edit stand alone is installed on a machine with VT4.6, can it still utilize the VT card for SD output?

thanks

Jim

Paul Lara
11-16-2006, 03:09 PM
Initially, no. It will expect firewire output. This needs to be resolved as we complete the implementation of SpeedEDIT within VT[5].

edmellnik
11-21-2006, 04:02 PM
Paul,

I see that Speededit only works with xp.....

Does that mean VT5 will need to be on Xp also?

I have my VT4.6 on Windows 2000 and wondered if
I was going to have to move to XP./?
ed

ScorpioProd
11-21-2006, 04:09 PM
XP is good. I stuck with Win2k too long. XP is better. Solved all my FW/USB2 connectivity issues.

John Perkins
11-21-2006, 05:48 PM
Yes, VT5 will also need Windows XP Service Pack2 or better.

Partially because SpeedEDIT is included, partially because there are a lot of improvements to XP SP2 that will make life easer, as Eugene said.

Seattle-HotShot
11-21-2006, 06:29 PM
I'm thinking of getting a can, stand by the bus stop, and wear my sign:
"Down on my luck Video Editor...
Need Spare Change...
Have to upgrade my OS to XP...
Bless the Aliens :)
---
Anyone have a NewTek T Shirt or Hat I could borrow? he he

badllarma
11-22-2006, 02:33 AM
John and Paul when it IS avalible :thumbsup: will be able to download SpeedEdit for those who pre ordered VT 5.0 or will we have to contact our dealer / Newtek Europe??

Also with the colour correction tools will there be some presets such as "Bleach By Pass" etc.?

And will there be any plans to add masking tools for the colour correction / grading tools?? Pleaseeeeeeeee :D

sorry to hijack the thread BTW :)

UnCommonGrafx
11-22-2006, 02:43 AM
Will it work on XP64 bit? VT5 I mean.

ScorpioProd
11-22-2006, 02:50 AM
Also with the colour correction tools will there be some presets such as "Bleach By Pass" etc.?

And will there be any plans to add masking tools for the colour correction / grading tools?? Pleaseeeeeeeee :D


Bob's 3Wheeler has had presets and masking tools for almost a year now... It's a great plug-in. I hope it's available for SpeedEDIT. Actually, I'm most concerned that Bob's MultiCamera Editor plug-in is available for SpeedEDIT, that's something I really need a lot.

badllarma
11-22-2006, 02:59 AM
Bob's 3Wheeler has had presets and masking tools for almost a year now... It's a great plug-in. I hope it's available for SpeedEDIT. Actually, I'm most concerned that Bob's MultiCamera Editor plug-in is available for SpeedEDIT, that's something I really need a lot.

Already have it :D I'm just hopeing the plugins will work with SpeedEdit or it will have simlar functions

John Perkins
11-22-2006, 11:41 AM
Will it work on XP64 bit? VT5 I mean.

That isn't planned for VT5.0.

It would take a huge amount of work on the hardware drivers since drivers have to be fully 64bit.

There is no wiggle room to run these 32bit in a 64bit environment.

badllarma
11-22-2006, 11:51 AM
John and Paul when it IS avalible :thumbsup: will be able to download SpeedEdit for those who pre ordered VT 5.0 or will we have to contact our dealer / Newtek Europe??

So John any ideas on this ?

John Perkins
11-22-2006, 12:07 PM
I'd tell you, but I'm in engineering, not sales or marketing.

You'll probably know before I do ;)

Videonut
11-22-2006, 12:24 PM
So John,

Are we looking at days still before the SE starts to ship or will this be our Christmas present?

badllarma
11-22-2006, 12:56 PM
I'd tell you, but I'm in engineering, not sales or marketing.

You'll probably know before I do ;)

:D :thumbsup:
Know that feeling all too well.........

KiloWatkins
01-08-2007, 08:16 AM
SpeedEDIT and VT4.6 can work on the same machine at a price. You may think on this approach by simply using a backup VT drive in your system. What you don't have an extra fully bootable VT drive? I don't like reinstalling programs. Your SE liscence is for a standalone editor. So say you at least have an OS backup boot drive in your VT? Install SE there. Switch back to your VT drive, bootVT, then switch the audio in Control Panel to Windows.

Find the SPEdit.exe in slave drive X:\ProgramFiles>Newtek and double click after sending to your desktop as a shortcut.

Once SE is running, switch back to VTaudio. and you now have audio in both programs. IT IS IMPORTANT to turn OFF VTprefs>DV inputs to Switcher. I NEED and SX8, so for now my VT audio out goes direct to my 5.1 surround. Don't feedback to the PC audio card input. This then lets your FireWire Capture/Print to tape/Preview/Signal work in SPEdit.

Your dependent on PC power to fully like SPEdit, PCIe should be a min.spec., imho.

I only enter Forums when a link is posted from the VTNT list, thx JimC, so if you need more of this explained, that is where I will be Europe.

GoodLuck

John Perkins
01-08-2007, 03:31 PM
You don't have to toggle the audio around every time you switch programs.

VT4 can use the VT audio regardless of how the Windows audio settings are configured. I haven't had my VT audio set as the default in years.

Scott Bates
01-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Good to know, thanks John.

KSTAR
01-16-2007, 02:35 AM
You don't have to toggle the audio around every time you switch programs.

VT4 can use the VT audio regardless of how the Windows audio settings are configured. I haven't had my VT audio set as the default in years.

I just moved SpeedEdit off the laptop over to my VT4.6 machine to take advantage of my faster drives. I enabled the audio on my Asus motherboard, so now Audio is handled through it. Now I no longer get audio through the VT when running VT modules? This is the first time that I have not ran audio through the VT card since I built this machine, since it use to be a Windows 2000 Pro machine. I just made the switch to XP so I could use SE on it.

I have checked all of the audio presets in VT and XP that I can think of but Im stumped on this one :stumped:

Ivan
01-16-2007, 06:35 AM
Not sure that's possible. When you find out what you did, please post the results. There are people with very expensive audio cards that have been trying to get VT audio through them since VT2.

Ivan

wvp
01-16-2007, 08:58 AM
Just to clarify (as I understand it), you cannot run VT audio through the computers audio card - that must go through the VT card.
You can (and need to) run SpeedEdit audio through the computers audio card.
I believe what John was saying is if you enable the computer audio the VT will still output its audio through the VT card and SpeedEdit (and the rest of windows) will output through the computer audio card.
Course, I thought we were always told to disable computer audio on a VT system...

John Perkins
01-16-2007, 09:21 AM
This is correct. VT will always, always use the VT audio. It is hard coded to directly access the hardware.

The reason that it was recommended to disable the onboard audio was due to hardware resource usage limitations.

I'm honestly not sure what changed in this area. I suspect that Windows handling of shared IRQ's has improved.

I haven't seen a problem with an additional audio card in several years, however, it is possible that users with Windows 2000, Windows XP without any updates or TONS of hardware packed into their systems could still have a problem.

There is still some black magic to building a stable editing system, but it's not nearly as bad as it once was. If in doubt, get with your dealer.

KSTAR
01-16-2007, 12:53 PM
Now I no longer get audio through the VT when running VT modules?

No what Im saying is I am running everything through the onboard audio EXCEPT VT. Im trying to get the VT modules to get sound through the VT card, and I cant.

Do I need to get a seperate sound card, and disable BUT the VT modules?

KSTAR
01-16-2007, 12:56 PM
I haven't seen a problem with an additional audio card in several years, however, it is possible that users with Windows 2000, Windows XP without any updates or TONS of hardware packed into their systems could still have a problem.

Hmm this was a completely new install of Windows XP not an upgrade. I formated the drive and started from scratch. Matter of fact VT4.6 and SpeedEdit were, and are the only programs installed right now

KSTAR
01-16-2007, 01:11 PM
What I meant to say two messages above, is should I disable the onboard audio, and buy a sound card to handle system sounds other than the VT Modules, and the VT modules will then default to the VT card?

John Perkins
01-16-2007, 01:33 PM
What I was trying to say is that there is nothing you can do to make the VT modules use anything other than the VT card.

If you lost audio from VT software, then look into VT troubleshooting, not sound card settings.

The only possible link between the two is a hardware conflict keeping you from using both in the same computer, but I doubt that is the case.

KSTAR
01-16-2007, 01:47 PM
Problem solved! Due to the fact that I don't have an SX8 I have an elaborate sound switching set up, and I just had some sound cables routed to the wrong input. So it was by bad

So the onboard audio on my motherboard with SpeedEdit, and the VT modules running through the VT card work just fine, and live in harmony :thumbsup:

So at least in my case the VT did not need the audio disabled since Im not using a sound card. This is on an old Asus P4T533-C. Im not sure if that would be an issue with other motherboards?