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wilebill
12-20-2006, 08:14 PM
Okay, I'm downloading SE as I type this, and I just thought of something.

I'd like to install SE on one of my VT stations, but I also ordered the VT 5 upgrade that I intend to install on that same machine. Once I get VT5 installed I want to put SE on a laptop.

So how hard is it going to be to transfer SE from that machine to my laptop when VT5 comes in? Would it even be worth it to me to install SE on that VT machine now?

wilebill
12-20-2006, 08:16 PM
Oh, and I just got a 550 error when trying to download the motion templates.

Jim Capillo
12-20-2006, 09:18 PM
I think this is the standalone version (laptop), not designed for the VT hardware.

wilebill
12-20-2006, 09:29 PM
I think this is the standalone version (laptop), not designed for the VT hardware.But I thought it could be used on the same machine that VT is installed on, but can't be used in conjunction with VT.

ted
12-20-2006, 09:42 PM
(I'm pretty sure), The current version of SE can run on a VT machine with NO problems. In fact, SE should run faster on most VT machines because of faster hardware. Depends on the age and machine of course.

ted
12-20-2006, 09:52 PM
So how hard is it going to be to transfer SE from that machine to my laptop when VT5 comes in? Would it even be worth it to me to install SE on that VT machine now?

It might take a couple e-mails and maybe a re-install to VT5. BUT IT'S DARNED WELL WORTH IT! :thumbsup:
Start playing with it now.

Lee U
12-20-2006, 10:00 PM
This sure sounds better than, "where's SpeedEdit?"
However I can't even get it to start downloading..Patience!
Lee

KSTAR
12-20-2006, 10:01 PM
But I thought it could be used on the same machine that VT is installed on, but can't be used in conjunction with VT.

Just remember per the install notes you cant use VT for a soundcard with SE you need a dedicated soundcard or use the sound card built into your motherboard if it has one.

prospector
12-20-2006, 10:35 PM
Oh, and I just got a 550 error when trying to download the motion templates

Yea me too.

But I actually read the e-mail fully and in directions (jeesh, I'm reading directions more and more lately) they are not ready and will be notified when they are.

ted
12-20-2006, 10:47 PM
But I actually read the e-mail fully

You are a rare individual! :D

The fact that early buyers were given SE while final Docs and DVD's are being pressed says a lot about how NewTek treats customers. Nice jesture NewTek!

pnelson
12-20-2006, 10:49 PM
Let the editing fun begin!!!

Enjoy!

John Perkins
12-20-2006, 11:11 PM
This is the standalone editor, VT5 will have it's own SpeedEDIT.

Just remember that it is keyed to the computer, so you will want to install it where you plan to use it.

The VT system won't be the wise choice if you have pre-ordered VT5.

wilebill
12-21-2006, 12:17 AM
The VT system won't be the wise choice if you have pre-ordered VT5.
Yeah, I was afraid somebody was going to say that. :grumpy:

Maybe I just need to buy a new laptop for Christmas. :)

SBowie
12-21-2006, 08:18 AM
Ahah - a conspiracy! NewTek is in league with those pre-Xmas laptop sale mongers! It's all a grand plot to drive the laptop market to new heights .... good thing they forgot about (wait for it ...) Boxing Day!

ChrisFar
12-21-2006, 11:13 AM
I am incredibly jealous. I want to try SE. Please keep the info on the application coming.

How is the slow motion?
Any killer filters?
How is the RT with SD?
Thanks Chris

JReble
12-21-2006, 11:29 AM
This is the standalone editor, VT5 will have it's own SpeedEDIT.

Just remember that it is keyed to the computer, so you will want to install it where you plan to use it.

The VT system won't be the wise choice if you have pre-ordered VT5.

John,

Are you saying, if we install SpeedEdit on one of our VT4 machines (so we can have the SpeedEdit features while waiting for VT5), we won't be able to move it to another computer later? I hope that's not what I heard. :o

Pete Draves
12-21-2006, 11:57 AM
I haven't figured out the 32 steps for registration.
Probably let this go for now.
Almost as bad as Adobe on the fone.
Pete

pnelson
12-21-2006, 12:16 PM
Pete,

It's actually not as bad as it looks. :)

We just went into HYPER-DETAIL mode to make sure everything went smooth for you guys.

Basically there are two main pieces..

Log in with "Secret Code" to download SpeedEDIT.

Install SpeedEDIT

Log in with new codes generated from the install to unlock..

Can't wait to get your comments after you install! SpeedEDIT is AWESOME!

rbartlett
12-21-2006, 12:36 PM
John,

Are you saying, if we install SpeedEdit on one of our VT4 machines (so we can have the SpeedEdit features while waiting for VT5), we won't be able to move it to another computer later? I hope that's not what I heard. :o

I'd go through three considerations:

1.
If you already own a machine that is the equal or better than your VT[4] machine - consider installing it there.
2.
If you were thinking of buying a new PC 4Q2006 or in 2006 then perhaps that would be the best place for a FREE STANDALONE SE.
3.
If you have no immediate plans and don't already own a suitable candidate for your FREE STANDALONE SE then you could install it on your VT[4] machine. The chances are that your VT[4] machine is better than any of your other machines (CPU, RAM, GFX and storage wise by a mile!).

Just remember to aim towards not losing the value of the FREE
STANDALONE copy. I'd sleep on it before committing and perhaps check
your finances/budgetary-commitment as you might want a better machine
for HD work - full stop.

It is tough working out what to do with a freebie whilst others are
itching to hear the counter ring and accept their pre-order monies on
the full shipping media package! :)

Do share your thoughts, either of us might have missed something important in the decision making process. (Vista-when-ready vouchers with XP32 and XP64 machine currently shipping etc springs to mind)

rbartlett
12-21-2006, 01:23 PM
Installing SE isn't such an obstacle, as I've just been reading. I have no reason to believe these words are not common to all the possible ways you can currently find yourself with a copy of SE 1.0 on your PC awaiting install on your main HD edit PC...........

Perspective and views corrected. Try ang get it right the first time, but if you don't you can do something about it if you don't mind going to some more trouble beyond the confines of the original installation instructions.........

Paul Lara (NewTek) has just submitted this post at yahoo-groups:




RE: [VTNT] SpeedEdit News

>> Ron pondered:

> For now I want it on my laptop but later (When Santa comes) I want to
> move it to a second desktop, can I?

Yes.

Q: My SpeedEDIT license is valid for one computer, how do I move it
to another computer?

A: SpeedEDIT can only be installed on one computer. If you decide to migrate
SpeedEDIT to another computer, you can contact NewTek Customer Service
at 1-800-862-7837. You can also contact customer service
online at http://www.newtek.com/faq/index.php?contact=service and
provide your name, address and your existing 6-digit registration code.

Additionally, begin the migration to the other system by uninstalling the
software from the first system, then install it on the new computer and
acquire the Product ID.

You will need this new Product ID when contacting Customer Service to
receive your new registration code.

ted
12-21-2006, 01:35 PM
I figured NewTek would offer a way. I mean heck, how many people change computers? Lots! You can't be locked in for life to only one computer.

So it looks like you should take advantage of SE's capabilities and learn it now. I'm guessing it could take a couple weeks or more to get the Doc's and DVD's pressed and delivered.

prospector
12-21-2006, 03:01 PM
How is it locked?
Just wonderin as I am about ready to upgrade the CPU but not whole compy.

Jim Capillo
12-21-2006, 03:10 PM
Probably by components, ala Windoze....

rbartlett
12-21-2006, 03:12 PM
Upgrade it and worry not. I think that is the consensus. If you get a message that the activation needs work - then contact customer services. They'll recognise you from your credentials!

At least everyone following these threads will realise that you don't have the right to install the software wherever you feel and that you might have to re-activate based on whatever internal criterion that SpeedEDIT uses.

Kudos to NewTek for their focus and immediate clarity.

Jim Capillo
12-21-2006, 03:18 PM
I'm gonna wait to install, as I'm looking for a new laptop. Anyone have recommendations?

JReble
12-21-2006, 04:10 PM
I hope all these transfer of registration issues are overblown currently. Though I recognize the need to protect from piracy, and I have no plans to install more licenses than I actually own, I do regularly make major modifications or complete upgrades/replacements to the computer systems I edit on.

I surely hope Newtek has at least instituted some de-install routine that unregisters SpeedEdit and gives you a code that is used to install your licensed software on another machine so Newtek knows when you've moved your software over to a new machine. If not, then we're only left with a beg-for-a-code and take-my-word-for-it-scenario which is just awful for both Newtek and the end users.

I have no intention of leaving 4 copies of SpeedEdit marooned on other PCs or setting on a shelf uninstalled while my main edit machines, running vt4, wait for the formal VT5 upgrade with availability yet TBD. I'd also hate to think that if I install SpeedEdit on a laptop and it works very poorly, that I will be penalized for not having purchased a new desktop or laptop to put it on in the first place. Some of the conversation being thrown around is worrying and sounds like registration will be more restrictive that Windows XP, and that's an operating system, not an editing tool. I hope things are not as gloomy as they are sounding.

drhcms
12-21-2006, 05:10 PM
Wow... after all these year. My first post.

Here is a link to some pics that I took as I installed SpeedEdit for those that are curious.

/timeline/200x/2006/12/2006_wk51.htm#speededit (http://www.davidhutchison.net/public/timeline/200x/2006/12/2006_wk51.htm#speededit)

As a side note I did have to call Newtek this afternoon to get a updated registration code. No problems what-so-ever.

Now I just need to get some time to work with it.

DavidH

http://www.davidhutchison.net/public/timeline/200x/2006/12/20/SpeedEdit_Install_021_resize.jpg

Realimagesvideo
12-21-2006, 08:07 PM
Excuse me! Where are you guys getting the download? I pre-ordered Speed Edit and even won another license at NAB.

Do tell! Or is this another joke?

John Perkins
12-21-2006, 08:16 PM
Check any email address that you might have used at the time you ordered. The emails went out yesterday to every address we had listed with a preorder.

If you didn't receive an email, check with your dealer.

We will be closed until December 28th, but give customer service a call then if you have any trouble.

Realimagesvideo
12-21-2006, 08:22 PM
Thanks John. I didn't get any emails. I'll check with my dealer tomorrow.

Randall Chesbro
12-21-2006, 08:48 PM
So this is going to work with the new macs? is there any pros or cons to doing this. I was thinking of getting a mac with xp on it and id like to get motion to play with.
thanks randyc

John Perkins
12-21-2006, 09:03 PM
It works fine. Several of the beta testers used Intel Macs.

silver fox
12-22-2006, 02:39 PM
In reference to running SpeedEDIT on a MAC, what is needed to install Windows XP Pro SP2 on the following iMac:

20" iMac 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

rbartlett
12-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Apple's BootCamp. Then an installable copy of XP (something like XP retail or OEM, Pro is recommended for striping functions but perhaps less important for an iMac)

silver fox
12-22-2006, 03:47 PM
Has anyone tried Parallels for Mac instead of Apple's Bootcamp for installing Windows XP Pro and SpeedEDIT? www.parallels.com

Also, would a Buffalo TeraStation DH-HTGL/R5 1 TB (4 250 GB IDE drives striped as a single 1 TB dirve in a Network standalone case) work as a video array?

Or, would I be better of for now in using my USB 2.0 External IDE Ultra 133 Drive Array consisting of 1 500GB work drive (programs & content storage) and 3 500GB drives striped as my video drive?

Which do you think would be the fastest setup, the Network attached 1 TB array or the USB 2.0 attached Ultra 133 striped set???

Thanks for your suggestions!

rbartlett
12-23-2006, 04:47 AM
That is a big NO.

Virtualization technology - like Parallels, but certainly I went to test the non-activated mode in VMWare Workstation - doesn't give SE access to the full processor architecture and more importantly there is no directx9+ hardware or software support in these otherwise wonderful half-way house environments. NewTek need the full breadth of your CPU, graphics card and storage system.

It is rather an oxymoron to use a virtual machine for a video workstation as I am sure you'll agree. That, the directx portion in particular, is not available in the current crop of virtualisers. Vista native-virtualisation might be different but you were talking about Windows under OSX. Same story for WINE and variants.