SE Update (NAB News)

[Bitboy]

Oh it sounds real nice! VST audio support :O

http://www.newtek.com/nab/speedEDIT.html

Can't wait for it and there will also be an update to make sure it works under Windows Vista.

[mgrusin]

SWEEET! Bring it on, Newtek! :dance:

-MG.

[robewil]

Yes, and the time-code support is huge for a lot of people. I wonder why this isn't officially posted as of this time.

[kleima]

It is.

http://newtek.com/nab/

[robewil]

Yes, it is now.

[axaboss]

MXF support. Bring it on!

[vtlipera]

Glad to here it. Does anyone know whether it will support 1080i 24p, or any progressive format. And which video cards will one be able to output video? Thanks

[robewil]

It only mentions "NewTek video hardware cards" so I guess that means VT or VTPro cards only.

[axaboss]

It only mentions "NewTek video hardware cards" so I guess that means VT or VTPro cards only.

This sounds about right. The release only mentions NEWTEK's cards for output. They should open this up to other cards and units. Such as AJA or Blackmagic Design.

[robewil]

Agreed

[cagey5]

So is an upgrade version available for download? There's nothing available in my folder.

[Twrch]

Nothing in my folder either.

And why haven't they booted up NewTekTV? I want to see their NAB show.

[robewil]

The press release states it will be released Q2. I realize that since April 1, we have been in Q2 but it's a stretch to believe that means right now.

[cagey5]

Thanks for the clarification. The press release I read didn't mention Q2 and in fact stated "SpeedEDIT owners can download the free update " rather than "will be available Q2" which they have altered one press release to, they'll probably alter the vista announcement as well shortly to avoid confusion..

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
NewTek SpeedEDIT™ now Supports Windows® Vista™

‘World’s Fastest Video Editor’ ready for newest OS

Las Vegas, Nevada -- NAB -- April 16, 2007 -- NewTek, Inc., manufacturer of industry-leading video and 3D animation products, today announced that SpeedEDIT™, its award-winning nonlinear editing software, is now compatible with Microsoft’s new Windows® Vista™ Operating System. SpeedEDIT owners can download the free update that improves display speeds while editing.

NewTek SpeedEDIT brings a more efficient video editing workflow, independently mixing resolutions aspects and formats within any video project. Multi-definition editing of native clips - from web streams to Hi Definition (HD) – help you transition smoothly into HD production, by editing Standard Definition (SD) and HD clips on the same timeline.

“NewTek is positioning the editing community for flexibility as video transitions from Standard Definition to both High Definition and IPTV” says Vice President of Sales and Video Marketing Philip Nelson. “SpeedEDIT’s resolution independence and wide acceptance of all major video formats means that editors cutting DV today will be ready for the upgrade to HD.”

Microsoft’s new operating system offers some advantages to SpeedEDIT users, including faster application loading and the ability to shadow copy daily restore points for system recovery.

SpeedEDIT features include:

Resolution independence, mixing SD & HD clips in real-time

Frame-rate independence

Aspect independence

Optimized for Dual and Quad-core systems

Real-time, full-resolution HDV previews

Linked storyboard and timeline views

CG Post™ animated titling
Pricing and Availability
SpeedEDIT is available now for $495 US. For more information, please visit http://www.newtek.com or call NewTek Sales at 1-800-368-5441, international callers dial +1-210-370-8000. To locate an Authorized NewTek Reseller, please visit http://www.newtek.com/dealers.


Thanks again.

[robewil]

That's a different press release. Look at the one linked at the beginning of this thread.

[djlithium]

I would really like to try this out.
I fired an email off to plara a little while ago asking where many of these features are and well I guess I have to eat my words now :)
But where is the download!???
=^..^=

If they are showing it at NAB how about having us users freak out about it and give it a whirl to put any vaporware rumors to bed?

[radams]

Hey DJ ,

If you noticed there was still no mention of HDCam or XDHDCam Support... ;)

Nor anything with RED :(

Thou I'm looking forward to taking the SE upgrade for a spin to see what it can do ;)

Cheers,

[axaboss]

I doubt RED will be on the list for awhile. There is a unique codec for RED. NewTek may have to pay a licensing fee to resell it with SE.

[Bobt]

I doubt RED will be on the list for awhile. There is a unique codec for RED. NewTek may have to pay a licensing fee to resell it with SE.

No all Newtek has to do is say they work with it. You, your post house etc. supplies the codec.
The footage was amazing the camera is real (saw) and the look is so much better than HD. Simply amazing.

Bob

[wvp]

I doubt RED will be on the list for awhile. There is a unique codec for RED. NewTek may have to pay a licensing fee to resell it with SE.
And to this I say, so pay the fee and add it to the cost - SE is still 1/2 the price of FCP.

[SBowie]

Or do a deal with the mfr. to include a Red-friendly copy of SE with every camera... :)

[Bobt]

THAT would totally blow me away!!

[djlithium]

Indeed that would be a supersmart idea.

[Red_Oddity]

If your system can play REDCODE RAW or ProRes 422 i think SE should be able to edit with those files (theoretically)

It also depends on the wrapper/container i guess.

[axaboss]

That will be awfully impressive to see RedCode working in conjunction with Speededit. ProRes 422 too, but isn't that an Apple only codec? Will it work on Windows thru QuickTime?

[Red_Oddity]

I hope so, i'm guessing it is a Quicktime codec, so, in theory it should work.

[Verlon]

I was at a demo of SE recently, and was told that a good portion of the price of SE had to do with coden licensing in general and mpeg in particular.

[Verlon]

actually....make sure SE works with Vista? You mean it doesn't now?

Mine seems to. What gives?

(must get more posts...1000 is in sight)

[John Perkins]

There has been a download available for a while now that will make SE 1.0 run on Vista.

If you have Aero Glass disabled or run Vista Home it will work regardless.

If you try to run Aero with SE 1.0 and no updates, it will be extremely slow and the output window will tear in the middle at most window sizes.

[Lightwolf]

There has been a download available for a while now that will make SE 1.0 run on Vista.

Is that also required for users that have the CD/boxed version?
Last time I checked (yesterday) there was no update to d/l for our three licenses.

Cheers,
Mike

[couryhouse]

I google it and see alot of edit suites have it but define exactly what it is an what it does.....

MXF support. Bring it on!

[couryhouse]

does this mean the audio filters and tools in vegas and other sony atuff will work in speededit also??

Oh it sounds real nice! VST audio support :O

http://www.newtek.com/nab/speedEDIT.html

Can't wait for it and there will also be an update to make sure it works under Windows Vista.

[couryhouse]

codec prices and cost of editing software.... I am not sure this holds true as there is editing software out there that has many codecs and is not as expensive....

perhaps someone can expound on this and educate us?

ed


I was at a demo of SE recently, and was told that a good portion of the price of SE had to do with coden licensing in general and mpeg in particular.

[John Perkins]

Is that also required for users that have the CD/boxed version?
Last time I checked (yesterday) there was no update to d/l for our three licenses.

Cheers,
Mike

Yes, the Vista testing was still ongoing when the DVD's shipped.

As I said, I wasn't positive that it was available in the downloads section yet, but I did release it to tech support if you need it now.

The Vista patch only includes the Vista patch, so you will get no benefit if you are on XP.

[Lightwolf]

Yes, the Vista testing was still ongoing when the DVD's shipped.

As I said, I wasn't positive that it was available in the downloads section yet, but I did release it to tech support if you need it now.

The Vista patch only includes the Vista patch, so you will get no benefit if you are on XP.
Thanks for the reply.
No Vista here, and not for some time to come (except for testing).

Cheers,
Mike

[John Perkins]

I google it and see alot of edit suites have it but define exactly what it is an what it does.....

MXF is a new container format like AVI or MOV. Most of the new file based cameras are using this container format.

You merely copy the files off the camera to the hard drive instead of capturing them.

[couryhouse]

would this be faster than caputre then? explain...


MXF is a new container format like AVI or MOV. Most of the new file based cameras are using this container format.

You merely copy the files off the camera to the hard drive instead of capturing them.

[John Perkins]

does this mean the audio filters and tools in vegas and other sony atuff will work in speededit also??

Professional level audio and video editors use the VST format for audio plugins rather than DirectX based ones. Vegas uses a lot of DirectX, so it's hard to say which of them will be usable.

If you have VST plugins you will be able to use them in SpeedEDIT. You will be amazed at the quality and quantity of even the freely availble VST plugins. :thumbsup:

In addition to those, several third-parties approached me at NAB about their commercially available VST plugins that have no freely available equivalents. We will be working with them to make sure that they are fully functional within the SpeedEDIT environment.

[Lightwolf]

would this be faster than caputre then? explain...
Yes.
Think of it this way... even DVCProHD is 100Mb/s ... which is roughly 12 megabytes per second.
Any decent HD is 60MB/s nowadays and the memory cards used are faster as well.
If you add in DV (25Mb) or DVCPro (50Mb)...

Plus durability of course.

Cheers,
Mike

[John Perkins]

would this be faster than caputre then? explain...

If you capture, you are limited to realtime. 1 hour of footage takes 1 hour.

If you are copying a file, then the transfer speed is limited only by the speed of the camera and your hard drive. It may take only a fraction of the time.

[ted]

Even Sony is adopting the record to Solid state memory option. It's a great process, when it's working! :D
Now if we could name the .mxf files i.e. Shot1, shot2 etc.
But it's a great workflow.

[axaboss]

MXF is a new container format like AVI or MOV. Most of the new file based cameras are using this container format.

You merely copy the files off the camera to the hard drive instead of capturing them.

This is what I hoped. Fantastic news. :)

[bobgilles]

A friend of mine used XDCAM at a local station with Avid liquid, would I be able to use his camera with Speededit?

[chribba]

A friend of mine used XDCAM at a local station with Avid liquid, would I be able to use his camera with Speededit?


XDCAM is MPEG-2 4:2:0 right? SE should would with that as long as the MXF import is working as it should...

[Silkrooster]

If you are copying a file, then the transfer speed is limited only by the speed of the camera and your hard drive. It may take only a fraction of the time.
This is the way it should have been from day 1 with all digital camcorders.
Silk

[ScorpioProd]

XDCAM is MPEG-2 4:2:0 right? SE should would with that as long as the MXF import is working as it should...
Note that Sony XDCAM HD MXF support is not currently mentioned in the SpeedEDIT upgrade that is coming in the near future. Only support for Panasonic MXF.

[harlan]

Thanks for pointing that out Eugene, that is definitely something to take into consideration; hopefully NT will correct/add support for XDCAM HD in the future.

Although XDCAM-HD probably isn't a format used by most web broadcaster folk.

[axaboss]

XDCAM HD MXF is a largely popular format. Maybe not as accessible as DVCPro HD, but popular. I can't see NT turning their nose up at it.

[KiloWatkins]

fwiw, BlackMagic has their codec pak for free download. I do a TON of realtime recording through a 3 PC I/O closed loop, but pulling data off a deck at cam/hd speeds, well that is the way to go, imho.

axaboss, your avatar reminds me of the grasshopper LW scene. That was the first PC playing LW scene @ 16:9, I recorded into my T/F as 16:9. fwiw

[ted]

XDCAM HD MXF is a largely popular format. Maybe not as accessible as DVCPro HD, but popular. I can't see NT turning their nose up at it.

Don't take this as NewTek turning their nose up at XDCam. I know for a fact that they see the need and really wanted to get support for both. It just came down to prioritizing and resources. I think there were some odd support issues with the XDCam and that was part of the reason for going DVCPro first.
My guess is that XDCam will be supported soon after DVCPro. But that's just a guess.

[axaboss]

fwiw, BlackMagic has their codec pak for free download. I do a TON of realtime recording through a 3 PC I/O closed loop, but pulling data off a deck at cam/hd speeds, well that is the way to go, imho.

The Blackmagic Card is a great solution for Speededit to bring in anything thru HDMI ports and convert into DVCPro. I believe the card is under $300.

I haven't tried it with SE, but heard about it for awhile before NAB 2007.

[Red_Oddity]

Just wondering, is there any news on the post NAB patch?

[Paul Lara]

It's progressing Red.

[ivanze]

Red as in the camera or Red as Red_Oddity? :)

[Red_Oddity]

Thank you Paul, keep up the good work (love the editor so far, even through its occasional quirks)

[John Perkins]

If you submit the quirks, we'll do our best to make sure that they are taken care of.

There is a web support link installed in the start menu where you can get help or submit bug reports, so please send in any problems you see.

All too often people write them in the forums where they are easily lost, but if they get in the database we can't lose track of them.

[tfrank]

If you submit the quirks, we'll do our best to make sure that they are taken care of.

There is a web support link installed in the start menu where you can get help or submit bug reports, so please send in any problems you see.

All too often people write them in the forums where they are easily lost, but if they get in the database we can't lose track of them. Will this reporting "feature" be a part of VT-5?

[John Perkins]

Yes, it will also be available in VT5.

[JackJ]

Will there also be a way to just generate a text-based report or something without a direct link to the intarwebs? I'd like to help with the bug reports, or be able to submit a detailed error report if there's trouble, but all our editors have chewing gum stuffed in the NIC ports (for safety)

[John Perkins]

You can go directly to http://support.newtek.com/speededit/speededit.asp from any computer.

You can also email speededit-support@newtek.com with the information and it is automatically sent to our database as if it had been entered on the web page.

This is part of our new tracking system to help improve the software. All reported problems are seen by engineering, in detail, with annoying reminders to fix them every day ;)

I think you will see the real-world benefits of the new system in the stability of the SpeedEDIT 1.2 update. :thumbsup: