Mogulus Flash Streaming Question

[GeekNews]

I have a Tricaster Studio and want to push a flash stream to mogulus.com they have a external flash server you can connect to.

You do so by pointing your flash stream at

rtmp://fme.mogulus.com/mogulus/[your_channel]/username=[your_username]/password=[your_password]/isAutoLive=[true|false]

The problem I am running into is that it appears that the Tricaster is not connecting to the service. I do not think it likes the "rtmp" because when I click the "Stream Output" button I get the error message.

Couldnt connect to server or the write to disk path is invalid.

I have the write to disk option turned off. I also have the username and password blank as that info is already included in the command like. Even if I try to enter username and password it does not work.

So looking for a little help here. I have searched the forums and everyone talks around the procedure for making this actually work. I have the new software so I assumed this would work out of the box.

[amospro]

I like the Mogulus site as well and would love to hear a way to hook up Tricaster to it directly. I will try to play with the configurations myself.

Can anyone else help us out here?

[D3Cast]

Here's my experience publishing to Mogulus from a TC. Your mileage may vary.

With the TC Standard 2.0 software and Adobe Flash Media Encoder 2.5 installed and running on the TC, by starting the TC software in "multi-tasking mode" (see jcupps's new product here (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86399&page=2) or my reply below it), FME is able to see "VT Video Device" and "VT Audio Device" in the device list, and you are then able to construct a rtmp:// URL as described above and push a Flash stream to Mogulus.

Now, this workflow worked like a charm. HOWEVER, my TC Standard was pinned at between 90-100% CPU while doing this, and all I was doing was playing a DDR in the TC -- never mind switching cameras, etc. I had neither "Stream Live Output" or "Record Live Output" clicked. Plus, the Flash stream was choppy as well, because of the CPU issues. I feel reasonably comfortable saying this is NOT a production workflow for the TC Standard.

I bet this would work much, much better on a Pro and up, though, and I'd love to hear the results.

-steve

[mu0p]

Here's my experience publishing to Mogulus from a TC. Your mileage may vary.

With the TC Standard 2.0 software and Adobe Flash Media Encoder 2.5 installed and running on the TC, by starting the TC software in "multi-tasking mode" (see jcupps's new product here (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86399&page=2) or my reply below it), FME is able to see "VT Video Device" and "VT Audio Device" in the device list, and you are then able to construct a rtmp:// URL as described above and push a Flash stream to Mogulus.

Now, this workflow worked like a charm. HOWEVER, my TC Standard was pinned at between 90-100% CPU while doing this, and all I was doing was playing a DDR in the TC -- never mind switching cameras, etc. I had neither "Stream Live Output" or "Record Live Output" clicked. Plus, the Flash stream was choppy as well, because of the CPU issues. I feel reasonably comfortable saying this is NOT a production workflow for the TC Standard.

I bet this would work much, much better on a Pro and up, though, and I'd love to hear the results.

-steve


I have studio, but not the 2.0 upgrade. So dont know if I would be able to carry that out. I did however achieve this by sending my signal out to a dv camera, then from MiniDv camera to my laptop via firewire and in my laptop have FME convert the signal into mogulus site. That work superb, picture came out very clear, and there were was no lag what-so-ever.

I can give it a try without the 2.0 but dont think that would work out.
but for now I do not have a problem sending the signal out to another laptop to do the flash work.

[D3Cast]

Yeah, I should been more more clear: with the pre-2.0 TC software, "VT Video Device" does NOT show up as a selectable source for other applications, so the separate-computer approach is required (as it is still for the TC Standard, even with 2.0, in my opinion).

-steve

[Adam_LightPlay]

So, is anybody with a TriCaster Studio and a 2.0 upgrade, having good results with direct AFME RTMP to Mogulus or UStream? (In other words not having to go thru Firewire conversion and a second PC)
GeekNews, did you ever get it working? Did you remember to remove the Brackets?
Thanks for any update,

[donald.williams]

No luck -

I have tried several times to go direct with no luck

[doc debolt]

I used it to live stream during the floods - using the flash encoding stock in the TC2 software(studio and pro) using these settings

*
o rtmp://fme.mogulus.com/mogulus/[channel_name_here]/username=[your_username] /password=[your_password]/isAutoLive=[true|false]

*
o Replace (remove the brackets) :
+ [channel_name_here] with your channel name
+ [your_username] with your username
+ [your_password] with your password
+ Set isAutoLive=true if you want the feed to go live on your channel immediatly or isAutoLive=false if you simply want the feed to appear as a camera in your Mogulus studio and manually control when you cue it and go live from the studio.
o Configure 'Stream' : Pick any name without space or special character. If you are sending multiple feeds to your camera make sure you name them differently.

it will then show up in the mogulus interface and you can cue it and send it out, works pretty darn well

doc

[lakesidechurch]

Thanks for the breakdown Doc. I just tried it and it works great.

Peter


I used it to live stream during the floods - using the flash encoding stock in the TC2 software(studio and pro) using these settings

*
o rtmp://fme.mogulus.com/mogulus/[channel_name_here]/username=[your_username] /password=[your_password]/isAutoLive=[true|false]

*
o Replace (remove the brackets) :
+ [channel_name_here] with your channel name
+ [your_username] with your username
+ [your_password] with your password
+ Set isAutoLive=true if you want the feed to go live on your channel immediatly or isAutoLive=false if you simply want the feed to appear as a camera in your Mogulus studio and manually control when you cue it and go live from the studio.
o Configure 'Stream' : Pick any name without space or special character. If you are sending multiple feeds to your camera make sure you name them differently.

it will then show up in the mogulus interface and you can cue it and send it out, works pretty darn well

doc

[Adam_LightPlay]

Thanks guys.
My client, VideoJungle.tv, decided to go with UStream.tv.
I hope they have similar solution to the Mogulus one.

[tomv]

Mogulus looks interesting.. They don't do any type of pre-roll ads or anything do they?

I'd be interested in streaming with them since it is flash based, but we cannot do any type of advertising.

[Adam_LightPlay]

I'll let Mogulus users answer that one.

I know UStream.tv doesn't do any preroll ads. They do have a few banner ads on your page.
They also let you embed the viewer on your own web site, and then there are no ads. However there is a UStream.tv bug in the upper right of your video the whole time. If people click on it, it will take them to your UStream.tv page.

[brians0105]

Mogulus doesn't insert pre-roll ads. They are starting to put lower 3rd Google-type ads in streaming video though. The viewer can click the X to close the ad.

However, I believe this is still in testing stages and in your account, you can disable the ads for now in your streaming video.

I think I read that at the beginning of the year, they will not allow streaming accounts to disable the ads unless you sign up for a PRO version.

[tomv]

I've tested mogulus and I can get it stream live from my TC Pro. Problem is it is only showing the middle of my screen, like it is zoomed into dead center of my output and about 3/4 of my output is not being shown. Any fixes to that? It shows ok on my TC preview and on the monitor sitting beside it.

[doc debolt]

If you use the Flash streaming of the TC2 software, the stream will show full frame - otherwise it is treating the TC as a windows capture device, and for some reason, it won't scale the res down.....

doc

[billmi]

If you use the Flash streaming of the TC2 software, the stream will show full frame - otherwise it is treating the TC as a windows capture device, and for some reason, it won't scale the res down.....


That's standard fare for most of the free video streaming services. If you use the web based interface, they crop instead of scaling. The only one I've found that scales without having to use your own encoder (either FME or TC 2.0's Flash Encoder) is ZapLive.tv.

[GeekNews]

Doc

When I am in the tricaster interface and I enter my mogulus account info into the location setting in my Tricaster Studio I get the following. "Couldn't connect to server or the write to disk path is invalid"

My tricaster does not like the RTMP:// if I put http:// it at least tries to connect but we all know that will not work. So did you have to do some config trick to make the Tricaster connect to Mogulus.

I have yet to connect to mogulus directly with my tricaster and it is beyond frustrating. The folks at newtek are blowing it in my opinion this is such a huge opportunity

Todd..

I used it to live stream during the floods - using the flash encoding stock in the TC2 software(studio and pro) using these settings

*
o rtmp://fme.mogulus.com/mogulus/[channel_name_here]/username=[your_username] /password=[your_password]/isAutoLive=[true|false]

*
o Replace (remove the brackets) :
+ [channel_name_here] with your channel name
+ [your_username] with your username
+ [your_password] with your password
+ Set isAutoLive=true if you want the feed to go live on your channel immediatly or isAutoLive=false if you simply want the feed to appear as a camera in your Mogulus studio and manually control when you cue it and go live from the studio.
o Configure 'Stream' : Pick any name without space or special character. If you are sending multiple feeds to your camera make sure you name them differently.

it will then show up in the mogulus interface and you can cue it and send it out, works pretty darn well

doc

[tomv]

Doc

When I am in the tricaster interface and I enter my mogulus account info into the location setting in my Tricaster Studio I get the following. "Couldn't connect to server or the write to disk path is invalid"

My tricaster does not like the RTMP:// if I put http:// it at least tries to connect but we all know that will not work. So did you have to do some config trick to make the Tricaster connect to Mogulus.

I have yet to connect to mogulus directly with my tricaster and it is beyond frustrating. The folks at newtek are blowing it in my opinion this is such a huge opportunity

Todd..

I got it to work using the TC2 interface. Just followed the directions from earlier in this thread, but had to put my channel name/user name (not sure which one did the trick since they are both the same) into Stream ID box on the TC. Worked like a charm. However we are sticking with our usual windows stream for now. The end product on the flash stream was too choppy.