Contour Shuttle Pro V2 Settings

GregGerlach · 01-28-2004, 01:47 PM

Does anyone have application settings for the Contour Shuttle Pro V2? Contour hasn't officially supported VT3 yet... they say you have to create your own settings. I would be interested in just the basic settings to get the basic functions like jog, play, shuttle etc., not necessarily the custom hot buttoms or macros.

Greg Gerlach
Gerlach Productions
Lexington, KY

Jim Capillo · 01-28-2004, 02:21 PM

I've posted my settings here, Greg.....

Shuttlepro V2 files

Have fun !

GregGerlach · 01-28-2004, 11:45 PM

Thanks Jim...

My Shuttle Pro V2 hasn't arrived yet. I assume that I can copy and paste the VT[3]Edit.pref file in the appropriate place in the Contour directory and that will allow for basic deck control and the programming of the 15 buttons as outlined in the diagram you enclosed in the zip file. Correct?

Also... can Shuttle Pro control a deck either via RS-422 or firewire and mark batch capture ins and outs?

Jim Capillo · 01-29-2004, 12:06 PM

I have not been successful in controlling my JVC BR-DV3000U deck via 422. I am currently controlling it by firewire and using the Y/C input for digitizing, so I can't answer the first part of your question, but I believe the second part is yes...... you just have to assign the buttons.

GregGerlach · 02-05-2004, 11:58 PM

The Shuttle Pro 2 really saves a lot of time, especially the 15 programmable buttons. I spoke with someone at Contour Design and they told me how to use the "Transition" keystrokes to set up different shuttle speeds using a simple "J" or "L" command to control my UVW-1800 and AG-D650 via RS-422. Trouble is, that's not how most NLE's communicate with Shuttle Pro. VT3 would have to have dedicated keystrokes for each of the five forward and backward transport speeds. To my knowledge, VT3 does not have this. If it did, we could program the "Shuttle In" settings with specific speed keystrokes. Using "J" and "L" is merely a workaround. It works if you don't turn the shuttle wheel too fast, especially if you're going from the fastest forward speed down to Pause or backwards. I have asked Newtek about the possibility of having these dedicated keystrokes. If they can do that, Contour Design will be able to support VT3 and list VT3 in their list of applications in their control panel. Seems like every other NLE is listed except VT3. Programming all of the 20+ transition keystrokes is not difficult... just time consuming. If anyone would like me to post a .pref file, it would save you some time.

Greg Gerlach
Gerlach Productions
Lexington, KY

PIZAZZ · 02-06-2004, 08:45 AM

Greg,

I would like to hear and see more of what you found out. Could you post a link to your pref file? We have been working on integrating 2 different ShuttlePros for 2 DDRs. They would be used in a live switching situation. I was just reading through the latest ShuttlePro software manual and it looks like the key composing feature could definitely be helpful for all the VT3 users.

I have always wondered why Newtek never came out with a quality Jog/Shuttle controller. I mean the ShuttlePro is great and all but a true high quality controller is a totally different feel. I have looked at the JLCooper stuff and it is awesome. To some it may be expensive but to others it is worth it if it lasts 5 or more years. I do not know how long the $100 piece of plastic is going to be able to hang around.

creach · 02-06-2004, 02:21 PM

Greg: I, too, would be interesting in seeing a link for your shuttle prefs.

Pizazz: Just as an FYI...our shuttle has been in everyday production use now for a year. We haven't lost a keycap, a rubber foot, or anything. It still works, too!

Dan

GregGerlach · 02-06-2004, 09:20 PM

I have one more thing to check out with Contour Design and then I will post a link to a pref file on this thread. I have a Shuttle Pro 2 which has a hard rubber shuttle wheel and a metal jog wheel. It has a very solid feel to it. The original Shuttle Pro is entirely plastic. I tried it with the DDR and it worked fine. In fact, it works a little better controlling VT3's video clips within DDR & VT-Edit than it does a source deck via RS-422. But... the RS-422 isn't bad. With my two pro decks, the keystroke for "One Frame Forward" (and backward) sends the deck into a very slow crawl and that doesn't translate into a very good Shuttle Pro jog function with RS-422. If Newtek can come up with some additional dedicated keystrokes, Shuttle Pro will be even better. I've been batch capturing all week and it's a breeze.

Greg Gerlach
Gerlach Productions
Lexington, KY

John Melvin · 02-07-2004, 09:33 AM

Just ordered one. Looking forward to the pref link.

Thanks

John

bradl · 02-08-2004, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GregGerlach
I spoke with someone at Contour Design and they told me how to use the "Transition" keystrokes to set up different shuttle speeds using a simple "J" or "L" command to control my UVW-1800 and AG-D650 via RS-422. Trouble is, that's not how most NLE's communicate with Shuttle Pro. VT3 would have to have dedicated keystrokes for each of the five forward and backward transport speeds. To my knowledge, VT3 does not have this. If it did, we could program the "Shuttle In" settings with specific speed keystrokes.

I ran into this same problem when I first got my shuttle pro and created my own dedicated speeds in a Toaster Script. The details can be found here:
VT3 Custom User Script to Enable Smooth ShuttlePro2 Shuttling

PIZAZZ · 02-09-2004, 09:09 AM

Creach,

I guess I judge things a little different. We are on the road quite a bit and all our gear takes a beating over time. Plastic appendages are some of the first to go. That is just our experience. I guess if the unit is sitting on a desk all its life then it should probably last a while.

Brad,

Thanks for posting that script again. I am going to install it and give it a good run through here in a moment.

GregGerlach · 02-09-2004, 11:10 PM

I was able to get Brad's ToasterScript to work in the VT-Edit timeline, but it wouldn't work in Batch Capture. I put the script in c:\VT3\Skins\Batch Capture\Main Window\User Scripts but the hotkeys did not control a source deck either via firewire or RS-422. Anyone have any suggestions?

Greg Gerlach

bradl · 02-10-2004, 12:06 AM

Guys,

Those custom keys were something I threw together back when I first got my ShuttlePro. I have not messed with it since then. At the time I was lead to believe by certain Newtek staff that Aussie was going to release the official ShuttlePro support files at any time. Well I guess he didn't get it working, stopped trying or something...?

GregGerlach · 02-10-2004, 08:10 AM

Brad,

Thanks for putting together those hotkeys. Now we know it can be done. I have e-mailed Aussie to see if there's a way to get your hotkeys to work with batch capture deck control. Once we get those hotkeys to work with deck control, Shuttle Pro will be nearly fully compatible with VT3. The only other issue is getting RS-422 deck control keystrokes for jog-one frame forward/back. The keystrokes Newtek has listed work in DDR, VT-Edit and batch deck control via firewire but not batch deck control via RS-422.

Greg Gerlach
Gerlach Productions
Lexington, KY

mgutman · 02-10-2004, 12:56 PM

Brad's script works great in VT3-TED. (Thanks, Brad!)

I mapped the wheel to the arrow keys for frame by frame jogging. You have to go very s-l-o-w or the video runs on for awhile.

Does anyone know how to avoid this run-on?

Thanks,
Mike