It's time for you to learn more about VT[3]

Paul Lara · 07-16-2003, 06:54 PM

Hi!

In light of the pending public shipping of VT[3], I wanted to invite everyone to stop in and ask about VT[3]. The silence is being broken at long last, after extended Beta testing.

This thread is being monitored by our intrepid VT[3] BetaForce team, who are now authorized to speak to you about some of the exciting capabilities within NewTek's newest Integrated Production Suite. It's time for you to hear from them, first-hand, about what is on your editing, switching and production horizon.

videoguy · 07-16-2003, 07:18 PM

to all you none- beta force guys i recomend you use any means neccesary to come up with the money to buy the upgrade it would be worth it at twice the price. it is absolutely amazing!!!! to see the least . have you guys ever heard of a system that is faster then realtime. andrew worked some magic to make it so. the cg quality is gorgeous. splines are outta this world. i cannont say enough to compliment the guys at newtek for this miracle of software

pnelson · 07-16-2003, 08:15 PM

Having access to the 3D Positioner is worth the price of the upgrade!!

Do your self and your customers a favor and BUY THIS UPGRADE!!!

See Ya,
Philip Nelson
www.glowco.com

videoguy · 07-16-2003, 08:30 PM

hey phil, i know this it OT but how are thoose t3 training tapes coming

RomainR · 07-16-2003, 08:57 PM

Here are many reasons to rejoice for the coming of VT[3], but here are the 3 big ones.

1-Brand New positioning pannel that'll blow you socks off.
3D rotation and position, smooth edges, colored borders.

2-Splines, oooooooooohhhh Splines, with splines presets.
you can save splines of many clip attributes and then re apply them to a multitude of clips.

3-Batch capture and print to tape and they really do work.

Jim Capillo · 07-16-2003, 10:11 PM

All those features and hundreds more will certainly make you smile! For those of you thinking of the old adage "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is......", you'd better think twice (and a few more times after that) before you decide not to upgrade or worse, throw your money at some other platform. The culmination of Andrew's hard work (and of course, his staff of programmers) has produced a piece of software that is going to stand the editing world on its ear.

This is, without a doubt, the most impressive piece of software engineering that I've seen since the original Toaster. Faster than real time...... unbelievable !

Congrats to Andrew, his programming team, the whole Newtek Family and of course, the BetaForce Team!

Great job, all !!!

UnCommonGrafx · 07-16-2003, 10:51 PM

Someone posted a silly suggestion, so I tried it...

LW guys'll know this one... Stroke recorder-like.

The three-D positioner people are gonna mention... you can grab and wack it about... while the video is playing... it will record those keys for you. Size it...Live... While it's playing in the editor... move it. Stop it and see the wacky arse fun you've had!!

Once that's done, go to the splines to do some speed ramping... slow it down on a nice smooth curve to 0... then watch it start going backward. That was good for a 5 minute chuckle...

It's amazing, folks, amazing. My girlfriends toaster has truly grown up. Now it's the Vital Technology that makes it happen.

wilebill · 07-17-2003, 01:00 AM

Okay, I'm excited!

So when's it coming out?

Billy

RomainR · 07-17-2003, 09:33 AM

I forgot to mention for people that have many projects at once and having to bounce from one video drive to another, one feature that I have fallen in love with is the spreadsheet, OOOOOOOHHHH the spreadsheet. Lets you change drive location of multiple clip in a few clicks, two to select multiple clips, one right click, one to selcet the change drive path, and then type in the new drive and then hit enter and and and and you're done.

Oh how I love the spreadsheet.

Scott Bates · 07-17-2003, 09:44 AM

Do you do DVDs with TMPGEnc? Tired of having to wait while your project renders to a single RTV so you can import it with Kirk's plug-in? Wait no more! Save your VT[3] project, open TMPGEnc, tell it to use your VT[3] Project File for both the video and audio (not a wrapped .avi or any other A/V file(s)) and TMPGEnc says, "Hey, we're good to go, let's do it!" Fantastic!

videorapture · 07-17-2003, 02:10 PM

Tell us more! Whet our appetites. Be shameless. Flaunt it in front of us. Give us the $20 lap dance version. The dirt, give us the dirt! Need to know more! So close. I can take it now. Only days away. Pant! Pant!

tmon · 07-17-2003, 03:00 PM

Andrew has reported that this confirmed T[2] bug has been fixed with regards to cuts-only frame accuracy. The spline stuff is great and so is the batch capture and frame-accurate print to tape functionality, but I'm also interested in fundamental, basic editing reliability before I upgrade.

Have the Beta Testers verified that the "errant frame bug" has been eradicated in VT[3]? For cuts:

1. Create a black clip with one frame of white (either at the head or tail), trim the white frame back exactly one frame, test upon playback to see if there is a "flash frame." Do it several times. Another method is to take a clip with at least two shots in it (with a cut transition) and trim the clip back to the last frame before the cut, then play it back to see if the "errant frame" appears.

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Also, I have yet to receive confirmation that it has been resolved for 32-bit alpha-channel overlays :

1. Place a video consisting of two different shots (i.e. a clip with a cut prebuilt into it, or two clips with no gap between them).

2. Place a 32-bit alpha channeled graphics file "under" the first shot, enable overlay, and trim it to match the out point of the first shot of the underlying video.

3. Check to see if the 32-bit overlay plays a frame longer than it's supposed to.

As I have said, this was a confirmed bug in T[2]. but I haven't gotten my hands on a Beta VT[3] to test it myself.

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Thanks.

agv · 07-17-2003, 03:32 PM

I have also run into the errant frame problem on the VT2 and I am anxious to hear that it has been solved before upgrading to the VT3.

If anyone with VT3 access is kind enough to do the test that Tai Jim has posted, and then post the results here, it would be greatly appreciated! Plus, you'll know for yourself if your edit system is frame accurate!

Thanks!

sywitt · 07-17-2003, 05:19 PM

I've been dying to let the word out about how incredible this thing is. VT3 is unbelievably powerful. The splines and positioner alone are worth the upgrade. I think that just about every module has been enhanced from T2. Wait 'till you see the soft edges, the borders, the time-banding, the toolbox....... Newtek has really outdone themselves.

ACross · 07-17-2003, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by agv
I have also run into the errant frame problem on the VT2 and I am anxious to hear that it has been solved before upgrading to the VT3.

If anyone with VT3 access is kind enough to do the test that Tai Jim has posted, and then post the results here, it would be greatly appreciated! Plus, you'll know for yourself if your edit system is frame accurate!

Thanks!

The fix that I made for frame accuracy will have hit this and all possible other areas where there might have been problems. The problem occured where on any particular track the clip ended without a clip following it. This could have been a problem in cut-aways in A/B editing, or overlays, or even in some cases in straight A/B editing. We now do some clever techniques to avoid any kind of frame (or even field) precision errors that might occur.

Internally to VT-Edit all time is stored in double precision time, so we actually know about time now to better than 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 seconds of precision (seriously)

In any case ... I am personally confident that this is the best release of VT that I have personally ever been involved in. When I look at VT[3] and then look back at T[2] (I have them both installed so I can test T[2]->VT[3] project porting) the difference is quite phenominal ... its hard to think this is the same app !

In any case, if you have any further questions, or comments, please do not hesitate to drop me and email. As always, we are always very interested in your feadback (whether good or bad) about our products.

Andrew
ACross @ NewTek . Com